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I think Fatal Silence by Robert Katz is a really interesting book to read. It doesn't deal as much with Vatican policies as the title or subtitle suggests as there are other topics covered in the book such as Anzio. I found the accounts of Italian resistance fighters and the Ardeatine Massacre to be the most interesting and compelling.

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Fantic, yeah, not many people know or care about what happened in Greece. The conditions were really harsh and I could go on and on telling personal stories from my grandparents but I doubt anyone cares. If you do, feel free to PM me

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"The Gods Were Neutral" is a classic about the Greek Campaign. And Corelli's Mandolin is of course required fiction reading.

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Fantic, yeah, not many people know or care about what happened in Greece. The conditions were really harsh and I could go on and on telling personal stories from my grandparents but I doubt anyone cares. If you do, feel free to PM me
I think if you write here, the better My grandma also suffered the Korean War(and before that, that brutal Japanese occupation).
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I think Fatal Silence by Robert Katz is a really interesting book to read. It doesn't deal as much with Vatican policies as the title or subtitle suggests as there are other topics covered in the book such as Anzio. I found the accounts of Italian resistance fighters and the Ardeatine Massacre to be the most interesting and compelling.
I also read a couple of books about the Italian campaign, and heard it was brutal as hell. Obviously the Italian landscape was perfect for defense so..wonder why did Churchill insist that it as a 'soft' underbelly is beyond me
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continuing to read



and according to this the so-called de Nazification process was a sham
especially when the German personnel who was responsible for it was changed from a leftie to a conservative one.

Just shows that Nazism and conservatism goes hand in hand
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I stronlgy recommend All But My Life by Gerda Weissmann Klein, personal account book from her and it's my favorite.

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I also read a couple of books about the Italian campaign, and heard it was brutal as hell. Obviously the Italian landscape was perfect for defense so..wonder why did Churchill insist that it as a 'soft' underbelly is beyond me
He-correctly-believed that Italy would collapse quickly if the Allies invaded it. Kesselring's countermoves to seize control of Italy from right under the Italian and Allies' noses is actually one of the more amazing campaigns of the war.

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He-correctly-believed that Italy would collapse quickly if the Allies invaded it. Kesselring's countermoves to seize control of Italy from right under the Italian and Allies' noses is actually one of the more amazing campaigns of the war.
Perhaps because of an unintended edge Mussolini had given the Allies earlier in the war. His army got bogged down conquering Greece, and the Germans had to come to their rescue, delaying their 1941 invasion of The Banged One's ancestral homeland from March until June. This of course exposed the Germans to more of the Russian winter. Il Duce was a better grandsire than a wartime leader.
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Did you know Lena received her World Fair Diplomate for her work with World War II vets from the former Soviet Union? She has a foundation and has devoted countless hours to raising funds to help provide care for vets.

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A thread about WW2, interesting !

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The best thing about World War II:


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Crusaders are the best.

I used to be one of those horrible WWII nerds who knew the speeds and armament of all the planes and tanks, but I can't remember it so well now.

(Some people will tell you the Crusader's awesome rhomboidal turret was really a shot trap, but that's a DAMNABLE LIE!!!)
Although Crusaders were very artistic, it was not the best thing for poor British tankmen

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Well, it was better than the A13.


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Oh, WW2 Stalin planned to invade Finland in five or so days. He forgot one thing... The Finns



In the end. Helsinki was only western capital on losing side that was not invaded. Nuff said
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About the Winter War, did you know that Finnish sniper Simo Häyhä, nicknamed "White Death", was the most successful sniper in the WW2 ? He had 505 confirmed kills. He was severely wounded on March 6, 1940, a bullet hit his jaw and also destroyed his left cheek, but he survived and at the age of 96 in April 2002 ! After the war he was hunter and dog breeder in Finland.

He used different tricks to hide himself like putting snow in his mouth to avoid breathing smoke, compacting the snow before him to avoid it to move when he fired, and he used only normal sights instead of optical sights to avoid light reflection. I've read the soviets even tried artillery bombing to kill him, but it didn't work.

Here he is:


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Oh and Sabaton, a Swedish power metal band made a song about him (White Death):



This band is specialized in songs about great battles/war of history. They especially made a lot of songs for WW2, about Battle of Normandy, Stalingrad, Koursk, Midway, Battle of the Atlantic, Battle of Berlin and so many others... It's a band for WW2 nerds who like metal

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