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Kony 2012

I'm sure all of you guys have heard this by now, if you haven't:


I've already bought my bracelet!


I'm not supporting this just because of the hype. I read a book about 5 years ago called A Long Way Gone by Ishmael Beah about child soldiering in Sierra Leone and it was amazing. I was a freshman in high school who hated reading and I read it in 2 days, and thought about it throughout those 2 days. This book was definitely a stand out and it gave some gruesome insight and awareness.

Now the issue has rolled around again and I didn't hesitate to help.

Spread the word! Support by buying an action kit or bracelet!
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I'm sorry I can't watch the video but what is buying a bracelet supposed to do?

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Everyone should watch it, even if your not going to buy the bracelet or anything, spread the word! im so excited for april 21 to put posters everywhere




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100% of the money from your purchase goes to the area of greatest need, including our protection and rehabilitation work in Central Africa and spreading awareness about the conflict around the world.
Basically it brings awareness and helps builds schools/centers with the technology to track intruders/abductors.
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I'm all for this cause, but sorry I just had to.


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There is nothing wrong with supporting a fundraiser, charity or any shit like that. Its dope: Do it!

Just attempt to make an effort knowing where your money is going. InvisibleChildren DO NOT give all of their proceeds to african aid, no where near. That is a fact, sorry.

InvisibleChildren has only donated about 3 million out of the 8 million they gained from donations...

I am completely for this cause, however there are much better fundraisers and charities you can be donating your time and money too, which can make a much larger difference and provide better help
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^ where does the rest go? maybe all the people that work for it arent volunteers




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^Yeah, sadly most of the money goes into their own pockets!
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Well even if half of the money donated helps, at least the money is doing something




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There is nothing wrong with supporting a fundraiser, charity or any shit like that. Its dope: Do it!

Just attempt to make an effort knowing where your money is going. InvisibleChildren DO NOT give all of their proceeds to african aid, no where near. That is a fact, sorry.

InvisibleChildren has only donated about 3 million out of the 8 million they gained from donations...

I am completely for this cause, however there are much better fundraisers and charities you can be donating your time and money too, which can make a much larger difference and provide better help
The proceeds don't even matter to me; the awareness is what matters. If someone feels uncomfortable donating, then they shouldn't. 3 million is better than 0, and the rest is going to film making, which I don't find is corrupt if it's supporting meaningful film. There's talk about them pocketing money and so on, and you'll choose what you want to believe. There's always people there to question the legitimacy of anything, which is a great thing, but not when it comes from random blogs and people on tumblr.

This movement is already making a large difference if you ask me.
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I was left with so many questions at the end of this. How did Kony come into power? How has he remained there for so long? Is everybody shaking in fear at his footsteps, or are there other groups against him? They didn't even mention the LRA really or what it is. If its a rebel group, what is it rebelling against? Or is it just more Africans being "savage" and needing "civilizing"? Hmmm...But I wont throw the baby out with the bathwater, and I got a general view of why Kony is so bad and I will use this vid as a starting point, and not as an ending point.


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I was left with so many questions at the end of this. How did Kony come into power? How has he remained there for so long? Is everybody shaking in fear at his footsteps, or are there other groups against him? They didn't even mention the LRA really or what it is. If its a rebel group, what is it rebelling against? Or is it just more Africans being "savage" and needing "civilizing"? Hmmm...But I wont throw the baby out with the bathwater, and I got a general view of why Kony is so bad and I will use this vid as a starting point, and not as an ending point.
Religion is probably a massive factor in his campaign. Uganda is very much a Christian country and he wants to start a theocratic government based on the ten commandments, which would gain the support of those who have a similar belief and they will then do whatever he tells them to pretty much. It's happened before in history, and it will happen again. Talk about hypocritical bullshit when he's breaking some of the most vital commandments. What an idiot.

I'm totally for the cause, but I don't think it's being structured the right way. Military action doesn't solve all the world's problems. I honestly think they need to sort out the Ugandan government first, considering they've known about him for years and not been able to do anything. Military presence has already begun making this difficult with Kony altering his tactics, which makes me question whether his tactics were the same beforehand. That in itself makes me question the ability of the Ugandan government, and also the governments of the places Kony has spread to. I know Africa is a very difficult continent with very difficult problems, but that's how I think it should be conducted.
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Invisible Children founders check up on how their money is being spent. Photograph by Glenna Gordon - click image to visit her site.




DISCLAIMER FOR LIBERALS: We at DemandNothing do not support the actions of the LRA or Joseph Kony. We have no objection to the principle of highlighting the activities of groups such as these, which are often overlooked in the western media.
Invisible Children released a video, KONY 2012, that called for the raising of awareness of the Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) in Uganda across the world. In their video they seek donations so that they can continue their project to bring US advisors in to work with the Ugandan military in finding and apprehending Joseph Kony. Their ultimate wish is for their supporters to agitate for an armed military intervention to stop Kony by raising awareness and confronting policymakers. The US has already deployed a small contingent of armed forces to advise and assist the Ugandan military but Invisible Children would like to see more pressure put on governments to give the Ugandan military more money, technology and foreign military advisers to push the fight on. They are effectively calling for an armed intervention in Uganda.
Armed interventions in Uganda to find and kill Joseph Kony have been tried repeatedly over the decades with no success. Each push scatters the LRA to civilian areas with terrible costs to those who live in those areas. For example, Operation Lightning Thunder, which was a joint operation with the involvement of the US, resulted in the abduction of 700 people and the deaths of 1, 000 civilians.
One of their partners and donators is Chase Community Giving who awarded them $1million as a prize for winning a contest that was mired in controversy and accusations of fraud. This organisation is part of JP Morgan Chase Foundation who are also listed as one of Invisible Children’s network of supporters. This organisation is also owner of Chase Military, an organisation that offers loans, mortgages and insurance to soldiers that are to be deployed abroad. JP Morgan have also used foreign military interventions in the past to secure investment opportunities such as in Afghanistan with the full support of the US Government. Further ties with Uganda include their recent investment in Ugandan agribusiness and their ties as broker and adviser to Heritage Oil, whose operations are expanding into the border of Uganda and the Congo where the LRA are currently based. You’d be forgiven for thinking that, when situating these operations with their support of Invisible Children in the past year, JP Morgan are very interested in Uganda’s assets and are looking for means to foster business-friendly awareness of Uganda’s problems for their own benefit. Military intervention would do nothing but bolster JP Morgans profitmaking opportunities in the region.
This increase in funding from JP Morgan also coincided with Invisible Children’s “Fourth Estate” program. This program was designed to foster a youth-oriented grassroots movement by the controlled manipulation of youth culture, social media, and youth activism. It is to this end that their video was released, which ties into their ventures with the music industry, which concentrates specifically on popular youth bands like Mumford & Sons and Frightened Rabbit, and their Fourth Estate activism education conference in August 2011. Between 2010 and 2011, resources spent on media creation rose from $463, 666 to $699, 617. Similarly, the amount of money that they spent on media awareness rose from $133, 600 to $301, 000 in the same span of time. At the same time, only a little over a third of the money that they raise is spent on their programs. The rest goes to awareness, management, and their product line. In fact, spending on programs went down from $3, 752, 435 to $3, 303, 218 in spite of their overall increase in funding.
Invisible Children’s actions are tied heavily into the promotion of a false consciousness type of activism that glosses over the complex history of the region that they purport to support and ignores the myriad of crimes the Museveni government is embroiled in or the Ugandan People’s Defence Force’s (UPDF) checkered history with profiteering, the use of child soldiers, and rape. The LRA are not even based in Uganda anymore and this has been the case for many years now. Their business-friendly awareness campaign is exemplified by their championing of predatory microfinance initiatives in Uganda, which are offered by CARE international, a charity that is also sponsored by JP Morgan.
It should come as no surprise that the US Government and an investment firm like JP Morgan would show such interest in the work of an otherwise unknown charity. If crowd-sourcing activism in this way was always so successful then we would expect larger movements such as Occupy to have also made similar headway into governments. That is simply not the case though, as the interests of corporations and government run explicitly counter to those in Occupy. This is not to say that Invisible Children and its members are out there to explicitly profiteer or that this is some kind of shadow conspiracy. What they are is an effective propaganda-making organisation whose interests have happened to coincide with the rich and powerful who are seeking to exploit the massive mineral wealth in Uganda, and the conflicts in the country, for their own profit. It’s a lot easier to make a video viral when you have millions of dollars worth of resources at your disposal.
Pushing this rhetoric through the sponsoring of charities such as Invisible Children helps people to believe that what they are doing is for some nebulous “good“ when, in reality, they are sponsoring those who aim to exploit the people of Uganda and armed intervention against child soldiers . The last thing that is needed is well-meaning, energised students committed to action without any real understanding of where their money is going and what their actions are committing them to.

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Sadly, I've heard more debates about the movement itself rather than the atrocities going on in Africa.
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