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Kirk Cameron to gays: stop "destroying civilization"

Kirk Cameron Finally Weighs in on How Gays Will Destroy Civilization

The Atlantic Wire By Seth Abramovitch

'80s sitcom heartthrob turned evangelical Kirk Cameron made his stance on gay rights, and gays in general, crystal clear in an interview with CNN's Piers Morgan last night. Survey says: definitely not pro! After Morgan broached the topic, Cameron deflected by making reference to Christine O'Donnell's gay-marriage-induced walkout of last summer, but the Growing Pains star eventually shared his views:

“I believe marriage was defined by God. Marriage is almost as old as dirt, and it was defined in the Garden between Adam and Eve. One man, one woman for life till death do you part. So I would never attempt to try to redefine marriage. And I don’t think anyone else should either. So do I support the idea of gay marriage? No, I don’t.” Pressed further to acknowledge whether or not he considers "homosexuality a sin," Cameron said: "I think that it's...unnatural. It's detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."

“In this interview, Kirk Cameron sounds even more dated than his 1980s TV character,” said Herndon Graddick, Senior Director of Programs at GLAAD (Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation). “Cameron is out of step with a growing majority of Americans, particularly people of faith who believe that their gay and lesbian brothers and sisters should be loved and accepted based on their character and not condemned because of their sexual orientation.”

It's tempting to dismiss Cameron as a sitcom has-been, and in mainstream entertainment, he is. But in the evangelical circles in which he moves and preaches, he is an influential figure: a charismatic and articulate star willing and able to publicly defend and promote their fundamentalist views.

He's even gone so far as to hand out "revised" editions of Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species on college campuses. His 2008 film, Fireproof, in which he played an internet-porn-addicted fireman who finds Jesus, was the highest-grossing independent film of that year, earning $33 million at the box office. Do you have any ideas how many copies of Darwin's scientific masterwork you can defile with that kind of money?

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people like that are downright scary... hard to believe that people like that actually exist in the 21st century!...

it's as if he has lived in a cave all his life and read only the bible... has he NOT experienced life and society? read a newspaper, visited other countries and cultures, etcetera...

oh yeah, um i didn't know GOD came down to the garden of eden and told adam and eve about the word "marriage" and what it means!.. marriage in reality was a MAN MADE concept and was something used for men in the village to procreate with a woman and for this procreation to be seen as legitimate and yes to in some cases give birth and to keep the village growing and for the woman to be "taken care of" by a man and not her family....
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I think people like him will always exist. I just hope at some point they'll stop receiving so much public attention. CNN doesn't interview skinheads to debate whether Jews deserve human rights, I hope homophobes like Cameron will eventually be relegated to the same obscurity.
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"gays out to destroy civilization"

Such lunacy is utterly laughable. How can anyone say such stupid things???

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- Being "in-step" or not is irrelevant. The idea that the validity of an opinion is its popularity is inane. So what - when most Americans felt that homosexuality was "wrong" it was?

- Agree or disagree but I think it's important to be clear on what someone says:
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Cameron said: "I think that it's...unnatural. It's detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization.]"
This is very different to someone saying that "gays are out to destroy civilization." Plus he stated "I think". That might seem irrelevant but most who are seeking to convert others to their viewpoint will speak as if it what they are saying is an absolute and not their opinion.

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Cameron said: "I think that it's...unnatural. It's detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."
Well he has got a point...

Nah I'm just messing, he's a disgusting bigot.
Seeing as gay people have been around for as long as people have been around, then they can hardly be destructive to civilisation can they
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Who?

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Explains why there are more people than ever, and growing.


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It's funny how actors/comedians/musicians such as Victoria Jackson and this clown are given national airtime to spout their views in front of millions of people when they really know nothing about what they're saying. It's shocking how much power the media gives to people in the entertainment industry (yes, I know it talks about his "movements in evangelical circles" and whatever, but so are many others who don't get the same coverage).

Away from that, does Cameron actually think Adam and Eve were real? If he does, it's not as if it's a tale about the joys of marriage, is it? More of a cautionary tale about God being unquestionably perfect and women being corrupt and evil more than anything else. Besides that, what he and so many other Christian fundamentalists conveniently fail to realise is that human life (and homosexuality) has existed for far longer than Christianity has, and, guess what? It's survived and flourished through it. You'd have thought that somebody (including GLAAD) could've pointed that out to him.

Having said all this, isn't this the guy that once said he beat Richard Dawkins in a debate and was smarter than Stephen Hawking?
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Civilization, especially Western Civilization is pretty much inconceivable without the contributions of gays. Guess he never has gone to libraries, museums or concerts, read some of the classics, studied philosophy or ever appreciated art. The biggest threat to "civilization" comes from people like him, who would remove, ban or sensor much of the aforementioned if they could.

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It's funny how actors/comedians/musicians such as Victoria Jackson and this clown are given national airtime to spout their views in front of millions of people when they really know nothing about what they're saying. It's shocking how much power the media gives to people in the entertainment industry (yes, I know it talks about his "movements in evangelical circles" and whatever, but so are many others who don't get the same coverage).

Away from that, does Cameron actually think Adam and Eve were real? If he does, it's not as if it's a tale about the joys of marriage, is it? More of a cautionary tale about God being unquestionably perfect and women being corrupt and evil more than anything else. Besides that, what he and so many other Christian fundamentalists conveniently fail to realise is that human life (and homosexuality) has existed for far longer than Christianity has, and, guess what? It's survived and flourished through it. You'd have thought that somebody (including GLAAD) could've pointed that out to him.

Having said all this, isn't this the guy that once said he beat Richard Dawkins in a debate and was smarter than Stephen Hawking?
There was a good article on Victoria Jackson being the "tea Party princess" in the Miami New Times a couple of weeks ago, and it sounded like she was in more for staying relevant and for the money paid than for her real beliefs. She still sounded like a nonsense lunatic though...
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This guy is a kook going way back. He got that blonde fired off the show because she posed for Playboy and did a topless scene (several) in Big Bad Mama 2, she played the younger semi-retarded daughter who bangs the heir they kidnpapped, the brunette from Archie Bunker's place also did a topless scene as the older daughter. And of course Angie Dickinson did a topless scene as well, and we saw some dick from Robert Culp. Big Bad Mama 2, they don't make them like that anymore.

Cameron also redid the script in a later episode where it was implied his girlfriend lived with him because she had a key, he had the scene cut. No key for the girlfriend!!

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