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I am thinking about leaving Islam

Okay so this is hard for me to talk about, to sum it up I discovered that I live in a big lie, I love God so much and I was raised to think that Islam is the best thing and that you have to be a muslim. Year by year I discover that hate and killing is what Islam is mostly about in relations with others, Islam allows raping women in war, all what they call prophet life is weird especially marrying a child, the hate to women bodies is rediculous
Now in Egypt I can see Islam turning every good thing to bad and they keep saying islamists dont represent islam, i search for what represent islam and i find lies manipulation and hate
I dont know what to do I love God I believe in judgement day and second life but just cant stand this hate anymore
What shall I do especially that asking for my papers to be changed may bring me to death and i cant stand being written muslim as islamists

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Whatever you do, don't turn Christian, Jewish, or Hindu because their behavior is far worse.

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Are you allowed to do that without risking being killed?

For Dante, it follows then, that the only way to get into Hell is to insist upon it. One must deliberately exclude himself from grace by hardening his heart against it. Hell is what the damned have actively and insistently wished for.

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Are you allowed to do that without risking being killed?
Er, I wouldn't risk it. It honestly depends if you get caught out and labelled an apostate. Apostasy is a very serious crime in Islam. Even if you get away with it, if militants or other incredibly pious Muslims found out there could be trouble. In an Arab country, I wouldn't risk it. I would wait till I could leave the country and then leave religion.
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Whatever you do, don't turn Christian, Jewish, or Hindu because their behavior is far worse.

The belief that man is an irresolute creature pulled this way and that by two forces of equal strength, alternately winning and losing the battle for his soul; the conviction that human life is nothing more than an uncertain struggle between heaven and hell; the faith in two opposed entities, Satan and Christ - all this was bound to engender those internal discords in which the mind, excited by the incessant fighting, stimulated as it were by the constant promises and threats, ends up by giving in and prostitutes itself to whichever of the two combatants has been more obstinate in its pursuit. Life isn't black and white, it's gold.
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Religion is the cancer of society. I can understand people in the Middle Age thinking of a superior God or something like that but today is just plain stupid

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Whatever you do, don't turn Christian, Jewish, or Hindu because their behavior is far worse.
Nice job. An anti-religious bigotry trifecta!

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Okay so this is hard for me to talk about, to sum it up I discovered that I live in a big lie, I love God so much and I was raised to think that Islam is the best thing and that you have to be a muslim. Year by year I discover that hate and killing is what Islam is mostly about in relations with others, Islam allows raping women in war, all what they call prophet life is weird especially marrying a child, the hate to women bodies is rediculous
Now in Egypt I can see Islam turning every good thing to bad and they keep saying islamists dont represent islam, i search for what represent islam and i find lies manipulation and hate
I dont know what to do I love God I believe in judgement day and second life but just cant stand this hate anymore
What shall I do especially that asking for my papers to be changed may bring me to death and i cant stand being written muslim as islamists
You have my utmost sympathy, KhorkinaQueen. My only advice would be to ask God with an open heart and mind to reveal who He truly is to you. NO ONE, NO ONE, has the right to tell you how to worship God. But having said that, I am well aware that it is real easy for me to sit here in the United States and tell someone in a nation that does not allow religious liberty that they have the right to worship as they choose. All I can say is that the government can do what it will with your body, but your mind is your own. I would say seek God with all your heart, and if you are honest and sincere, He will reveal Himself to you. If He does not, then He is no God and is not worth following. Either way, you must be true to yourself and follow your own conscience.

I hope and pray for your safety and deliverance.

JESUS

The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes. Ps. 36:1

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Ps. 14:1, 53:1

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. Prov. 1:7

...Behold, the fear of the LORD, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding. Job 28:28

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I don't necessarily think Islam is the issue, I mean Turkey and Albania are all majority Muslim countries without the problems you have mentioned, it is more the country and its attitude towards religion that is the problem I think. But then I don't know your exact circumstance.
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I don't necessarily think Islam is the issue, I mean Turkey and Albania are all majority Muslim countries without the problems you have mentioned, it is more the country and its attitude towards religion that is the problem I think. But then I don't know your exact circumstance.
I'd probably say the same thing. People always love to blame religion, when in actual fact it's the people who cause the problem. There are billions of people around the world who are religious and cause little to no problems. We just see the ones who do, because they're newsworthy.
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People may try to influence your decisions but ultimately, only you can make this decision. No one but yourself knows the extent of your faith and if you have it, there is no reason why the misdoings of the organized Islamic church should influence your beliefs. I admit I don't know as much about Islam as I do about a religion like Christianity, but the biggest thing that irks me are the common stereotypes that people label all Christians, as if they all share one single-minded set of beliefs. If you have faith, the last thing you want to do is repress it because it is a connection you feel on a personal level, that no one else knows, and no one else has the right to tell you otherwise.

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Religion is the cancer of society. I can understand people in the Middle Age thinking of a superior God or something like that but today is just plain stupid
Please get off your parents' computer and do your homework.

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Aw good luck to you. I thought it was bad enough leaving my local Christian religion, but there was never gonna be any death risks or anything .

You have it far worse than I did. to you.
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Don't think you can. I understand that according to mainstream Islamic doctrine, “Everyone is born a Muslim”, whether they know it or not. Non-Muslims, I believe are classified as either ignorant(that they are really Muslims) or accursed, and I'm not going to say who those are.

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