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Israeli high court keeps Israeli, Palestinian spouses apart
By NBC News and news services

An Israeli high court ruling has left at least one family angry, frustrated and in limbo because the husband, an Israeli citizen, will be forbidden legally from living with his Palestinian wife.

The Israeli Supreme Court reaffirmed late Wednesday a 2003 citizenship law that bans most Palestinians who marry Israelis from living inside the Jewish state. The law is intended to prevent Palestinian migration to Israel on the pretext of family unification.

The law is believed to have prevented thousands of Palestinians from living with their spouses. At the core of the ruling lies the notion that some Israelis see the Palestinians as "the enemy" and as "potential terrorists."

Six years ago, Taiseer Khatib, an Israeli Arab living in the northern city of Acre, married Lana, a Palestinian from the West Bank town of Jenin. They have two children, Adnan, 4, and Isra, 3.

Now the Khatib family faces the deportation of Lana back to Jenin.

"This ruling is all about racism," Taiseer Khatib told NBC News on Thursday. "The Israelis want to change the demography here by reducing the number of Palestinians inside Israel. What choices are left for me?"

Khatib's choices are all bleak. The only way for this family to stay together is by emigrating to another country. Khatib, as an Israeli, by law cannot enter the West Bank and the Gaza strip.

The ruling was handed down by a 6-5 majority.

Judge Asher Grunis, who belonged to the majority, wrote in the ruling that human rights are not a recipe for "national suicide."

Supreme Court President Judge Dorit Beinish wrote in the minority opinion that the disagreement on the issue revolved around one of the most difficult questions in the state's history, the battle against terror while at the same time maintaining the nation's democratic nature.

According to the ruling, about 135,000 Palestinians were granted Israeli citizenship through marriage between 1994 and 2002. Most of them were married to Israeli Arabs. This was a jump from just a few hundred such cases before 1994.

About 20 percent of Israel's citizens are Arabs. They share common roots with the Palestinian community in the West Bank, Gaza and abroad, and frequently intermarry.

The law bans granting citizenship or residency to Palestinian spouses of Israelis but allows for exemptions for those not believed to pose security risks, including Palestinian men older than 35 and women older than 25.

Adalah Arab, a human rights group that petitioned the high court, told NBC News that between 2002 and 2008 about 10,400 families living in Israel applied for a reunification request.

Last year, only 33 out of 3,000 applications for exemptions were approved, Adalah attorney Sawsan Zaher told The Associated Press.

"Israel is considered one of the strongest military countries in the world," Khatib told NBC News. "Are they afraid of my wife? She is not a terrorist; I promise you she doesn't consist of any threat to Israel."
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"Our only way of action is to apply to the world and international courts to uncover the real face of Israel," Khatib said. "Can you imagine me raising my children here while their mother will be in Jenin? This is not only crazy but impossible."

Reporting from NBC News' Paul Goldman and The Associated Press.

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I was just reading an article on how Israel is now the gay capital of the world, super tollerant and bla bla bla, then articles like these come out
It may not be homophobic, but it sure is racist, and no one can deny that.


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inb4 it gets ugly

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Ugly.

But then racism when it comes to immigration and non-citizens is totally acceptable around the world, then it becomes taboo when you're dealing with citizens.
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Was this law in effect when they got married? Can't the father move his family to Palestine?

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Ugly.

But then racism when it comes to immigration and non-citizens is totally acceptable around the world, then it becomes taboo when you're dealing with citizens.
I don't see it as "racism" but as nationalism. That said:

- many (most?) countries do allow marriage to supersede their standard immigration policies.

- the situation with Israel/Palestine is unique. If the Israeli powers do - as they claim - want peaceful co-existent this is certainly not the way to go about it.

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- the situation with Israel/Palestine is unique. If the Israeli powers do - as they claim - want peaceful co-existent this is certainly not the way to go about it.
They are not even giving permits to Israeli Arabs to build houses!
There is sadly a long way for co-existent and peace.

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You may be right. But you never know. People are capable of amazing things.

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I was just reading an article on how Israel is now the gay capital of the world, super tollerant and bla bla bla, then articles like these come out
It may not be homophobic, but it sure is racist, and no one can deny that.
Yeah every gay mag I buy has an advertisement for Israeli holidays. It sure markets itself as loving gays, pity they dislike Arabs
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Only Israel can get away with something like this
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They are not even giving permits to Israeli Arabs to build houses!
There is sadly a long way for co-existent and peace.
Israeli Arabs are simply second class citizens, there no other way around.
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Yeah every gay mag I buy has an advertisement for Israeli holidays. It sure markets itself as loving gays, pity they dislike Arabs
This being mentioned twice in this thread prompted me to do a search. And apparently it's not by happenstance.



Israel Recruiting Gays, Lesbians As Unofficial Envoys To Boost Image

JERUSALEM -- When it comes to stating its case internationally, Israel is tired of playing it straight: It is recruiting gays and lesbians as unofficial envoys.

In a bid to boost its international image, the country's ministry of Public Diplomacy and Diaspora Affairs has established a cadre of diverse volunteers who speak about Israel around the world.

In a recent post on its website, the ministry encouraged minorities and members of the gay community to step forward.

Ministry spokesman Gal Ilan said Thursday that the goal was to highlight Israel's diversity. He said when people think about Israel, the gay community is often overlooked.

There are no details yet on how many people have volunteered.

Israel has recently been promoting itself as a gay friendly oasis in an intolerant Middle East

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OPEC is the only thing that prevents Arabs from being totally vanquished in this world. The ghost of 1973 oil crisis is still very much looming and the only way Israel can avenge that is to start a nuclear war with Iran. Wonder if that happens when I'm still alive?

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OPEC is the only thing that prevents Arabs from being totally vanquished in this world. The ghost of 1973 oil crisis is still very much looming and the only way Israel can avenge that is to start a nuclear war with Iran. Wonder if that happens when I'm still alive?
Another Chavez success story, the re-emergence of OPEC.
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