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Champions League: second stage

So, the 16 teams for the second stage are already known. It's surprising that teams such as Bayern Munich and Liverpool are out. The draw will take place tomorrow at 11.30 in Geneva. Here some questios about the 'draw':

The draw, which takes place at 11.30CET at the Noga Hilton Hotel in Geneva, will divide the 16 qualifiers into four groups of four, with the top two in each of those groups progressing to the quarter-finals.


The eight group winners from the first group stage are the seeded teams, and according to the UEFA club coefficient rankings the top four seeds are: Madrid, winners of Group C and with a coefficient of 147.233; Manchester United FC (Group F winners, 125.729); FC Barcelona (Group H winners, 116.233); and Valencia CF (Group B winners, 106.233). T

Those four teams will go into Pot 1 for the draw, while the other group winners – Juventus FC, Arsenal FC, Internazionale FC and AC Milan – will go into Pot 2. Pots 3 and 4 will comprise the group runners-up. One club from each pot will be drawn into one of the four second-stage groups.

Teams from the same national association cannot be drawn in the same group, and teams from the same first-stage group cannot be drawn together again. The draw procedure is to be ratified at a meeting of UEFA's Club Competitions Committee in Geneva on Thursday.



Clubs qualified for the UEFA Champions League second group stage


Seeding Pot 1

Pos Club Coeff.
1 Real Madrid (ESP) 147.233
2 Manchester United FC (ENG) 125.729
3 FC Barcelona (ESP) 116.233
4 Valencia CF (ESP) 106.233



Seeding Pot 2

Pos Club Coeff.
5 Juventus FC (ITA) 91.334
6 Arsenal FC (ENG) 90.729
7 Internazionale FC (ITA) 88.334
8 Milan AC (ITA) 69.334


Seeding Pot 3

Pos Club Coeff.
9 RC Deportivo La Coruńa (ESP) 82.233
10 Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) 81.495
11 AS Roma (ITA) 77.334
12 BV Borussia Dortmund (GER) 73.495



Seeding Pot 4


Pos Club Coeff.
13 FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS) 57.645
14 AFC Ajax (HOL) 48.082
15 Newcastle United FC (ENG) 43.729
16 FC Basel (SUI) 14.312


With this system it's clear for example that Depor will play Manchester, and in that group will also be Juve or Inter, and Roma and Arsenal will be in the same group together with Valencia or Barcelona.


Tomorrow we'll know more about this.

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There will be One Spanish team in each group
One Italian team in each group

and if Liverpool didn't mess up the draw would be pretty easy to make as there would have been 4 English teams too.

then the other 4 teams would be placed in one of the other groups

I bet SCUM get the easiest group

Man U's group = 1 Italian team plus one ESP or GER team plus i hope Ajax

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Manchester and Deportivo go in the same group because the first pot have three Spanish teams and Deport can't draw them, so the team left is Manchester. The same with Roma and Arsenal, they have to be in the same group because in Arsena's pot there are three Italian teams and Roma can't play another Italian, so it has to be against Arsenal. With more British and German teams the draw would be almost done...
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Arsenal look sure to reach the knockout stages


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Ajax are cool with Zlatan and everything, but they gotta thank rosenborg for progressing.

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Seeding Pot 1
Real Madrid
Manchester United
Barcelona
Valencia
I predicted these four would easily get through.

Seeding Pot 2
Juventus
Arsenal
Internazionale
AC Milan
I didn't predict Milan to go through, but got the rest right.

Seeding Pot 3
Deportivo
Bayer Leverkusen
Roma
Borussia Dortmund
Got these four right.

Seeding Pot 4
Lokomotiv Moscow
Ajax
Newcastle United
FC Basel
Yes, OK, so how was I supposed to know that Loko and Basel would perform better than they had any right to?
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This is the final draw:


Group A:
Internazionale
Leverkusen
Barcelona
Newcastle United

Group B:
Ajax
Roma
Arsenal
Valencia ˇˇVAMOS!!

Group C:
Borussia Dortmund
Milan
Real Madrid
Lokomotiv Moscow

Group D:
Juventus
Basel
Manchester United
Deportivo La Coruna

All groups are strong, but, OMG, group B is the group of death, right?
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All groups are strong, but, OMG, group B is the group of death, right? [/B]
Group A and B are the strongest
L.Moskow and Basel are the underdogs
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Inter got an hard group (1)

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