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Kate Bush 12 12.24%
Whitney Houston 16 16.33%
Mariah Carey 21 21.43%
Janet Jackson 4 4.08%
Bjork 11 11.22%
Madonna 11 11.22%
Shitney 14 14.29%
Laday Gaga 9 9.18%
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post #1 of 163 (permalink) Old Dec 29th, 2011, 03:02 PM Thread Starter
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Why Kate's Bush is so much better than Lana Del Rey and your other ridiculous divas.

Kate Bush - The Kick Inside



Highlights: Wuthering Heights, The Man with the Child in his Eyes, L'amour Looks Something Like You, Oh To Be In Love. The whole album basically.



Highlights: You Give Good Love, Saving All My Love for You, Greatest Love of All. The album is ear shattering, literally.



Highlights: Vision of Love, Someday, I Don't Wanna Cry, Vanishing.

(not technically a debut, but still)

Highlights: Human Behavior, Venus as a Boy, Play Dead.



Highlights: What Have You Done For Me Lately, Nasty, When I Think of You, The Pleasure Principle. Full of classics. (again, technically not a debut).



Highlights: the album cover, Holiday, Lucky Star, Borderline. Sort of defined dance pop music, which is still getting rehashed to this day.



Highlights: yuck. I can't bring myself to name any highlights.

Lady Gaga - The Fame. I won't bother posting a picture. I just included her so her stans don't accuse me of being biased.

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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

Wow. Impossible to choose between Whitney, Mariah, Janet, Madonna and Shitney. A lot of TF posters weren't alive / very old for the debuts of Whitney, Mariah, Janet and Madonna but they were all HUGE media bombshells. I'll try to choose one by process of elimination, but this is extremely ripe for debate.

Kate, Bjork...no way.
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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

Do we vote on the biggest worldwide smash / most influential or just our personal favorite?
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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

Kate Bush and Bjork aren't pop divas.

So I vote for Mariah.

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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

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Do we vote on the biggest worldwide smash / most influential or just our personal favorite?
It's the one you prefer/think had the biggest influence. It is not about the album that had the biggest sales.

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They very much are, particularly their debut albums. The Kick Inside is quintessential pop, and it's getting my vote, only slightly ahead of Janet's Control.

To expand a little more: The Kick Inside had everything you could ask for in a debut album by a 19 year old female pop star. The stunning/gorgeous voice, expressive singing, depth, sensuality, lyricism, catchy hooks and melodies and also the visuals. And I forgot to add that she also had the exquisite looks to top it all off.

Janet's Control is full of several classics that have lasted the test of time, with amaze hooks, melodies, harmonies and backing vocals despite Janet's vocal limitations in terms of power (but excellent tone).

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Whoever does these things on Wikipedia describes TKI as "art rock" and Debut as "alternative dance". I'd say these are more accurate descriptions. I don't consider either to be a pop album.

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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

Mariah!
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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

The influence of some these albums,and how they helped pave the way and sort of changed the landscape of the music that was churned out directly after it is sort of amazing.

Whitney's album really did lay the groundwork for diva pop, that big booming voice that was so popular in the late 80s and early 90s. The big ballads like Greatest Love of All & Saving All My Love for You became sort of a template for the big diva records that have followed, but it's not always you have a singer that can have great ballads like this, but also more mainstream upbeat songs like How Will I Know, which make it a real complete album. I would even venture in a way in helped to bring in new life in the careers of some superstars before her like Patti LaBelle & Gladys Knight who both found some solo success after this album (also surely helped along by Tina Turner's comeback).
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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

These are all pop albums, just various kinds of pop.

Said that, I dislike The Kick Inside (her next several albums would be much better), and like Madonna's debut the most out of these albums listed, but I can't say I've listened to Janet, Mariah, or Whitney's debut records.

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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

Madonna for me wins this.

Although I also LOVE The kick Inside and Mariah Carey;... Baby one More Time is one of my favourite albums too as I absolutely adore that era (Surprisingly I didn't get into Gaga's album till she released the Fame Monster).
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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

Bjork and Kate Bush's debut albums are leagues above everyone creatively, in this list. Debut in particular is an absolute marvel.
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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

To be honest, if it's about worldwide success, Britney hands down with Lady Gaga closely behind and then probably Whitney. Others are not even worth mentioning. Mariah was only huge because of her #1 singles but not her album. Her songs in her early days weren't that influential worldwide compared to the likes of Britney, Lady Gaga, Whitney. Whitney could be somehow underrated here but her songs in her debut album were still covered by singers in competition nowadays, and that shows something.

Anyway, I voted for Mariah.
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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

Can't say I've heard them all, but out of the ones I have I'll go with Madonna. Lady GaGa 2nd.
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Madonna! Every song on it is good...even the filler tracks. Released in 83, it's all about the music, no "smoke & mirrors" and contained simple but solid dance/pop tracks with a (at the time) fresh funky vibe.
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Re: Which of these pop divas had the thunderest debut album?

and I thought Madonna's wasn't technically her debut album?
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