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Gadhafi killed in Libya

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/20...=BN1&hpt=hp_t1

Libyans are celebrating in Tripoli as reports spread that Moammer Gadhafi is dead.
October 20th, 2011 09:11 AM ET

There are reports that deposed Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi has been either captured or killed.

[Update 9:04 a.m. ET] Most Western governments declined to comment on the reports Thursday, with the U.S. State Department saying they could not confirm the media reports were correct. One exception was Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte, whose country took part in the NATO-led air operation in Libya, who said Gadhafi was in custody. "My assistant has just told me that Gadhafi really has been captured," Rutte said during a visit to Moscow. "I am glad that he has been captured." Listen to why Washington is hesitating to confirm reports. If reports are true, it is positive news for U.S. national security, CNN's Barbara Starr reports.

[Update 8:56 a.m. ET] Mahmoud Shamman, Libya's information minister, tells CNN that a press conference will be happening soon about the alleged death of Gadhafi. Shamman said Gadhafi is dead and that is "a great victory" for the Libyan people. CNN's Dan Rivers spoke to him in Tripoli where crowds are cheering, shooting guns in a celebratory way and honking their horns.



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He's dead, not captured

Al-Jazeera showing pictures of the corpse: http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/cvp...ive/cvpstream1
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I will never understand why didn't he leave the country ?
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He was mad and decided that he could have got away with everything, every normal human being would have run away but he chose to stay I would have preferred for him to have served his time in prison; Next few years will gonna be quite tough for Libya :awww;
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So it finally ends?
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Wow! Big news...!
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I'm torn about this. I did not like the footage shown on the BBC of his bloodied body. However according to the BBC the Libyan people want to see it.

I also do not like the West's involvement in so many foreign countries, in particular Muslim countries. I think it gives out the wrong messages. Countries should be left to resolve their own issues unless they are threatening to invade.

More importantly, I worry for the people of Libya, Syria etc. What they get in place of the current regimes may be no better. 2 years ago a colleague went on a weeks tour of Libya and she loved it and thought the people were very friendly and far more polite than at home. I'm just not convinced that the West's fantasy of bringing Western culture to other countries is what is best.
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It will have repercussions for the World far greater than if your PM or the UK's PM was killed.
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This wouldn't have been possible if not for NATO air support. Interesting to see what happens in Libya now.
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It will have repercussions for the World far greater than if your PM or the UK's PM was killed.
I was being serious?
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Sad that he died never being promoted to 'general'.

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Hopefully this will be a positive thing for Libya and much of Africa. Ghadaffi had a long if underreported history of propping up strongman dictators in sub-Saharan Africa and contributed to much of the civil war and strife that has cursed that continent for the last quarter-century or so.

While I agree that Western intervention in the internal affairs of other countries is generally a bad thing, there does seem to be a lot of support from most Libyans (and of course I'm getting this from Western media sources, but also from al-Jazeera) for our role so far. The fact we've sent in very few ground troops (mostly to coordinate the air attacks and provide aid) is a rare show of intelligence, because this means that the Libyans have continued to see this as "their" revolution--quite justifiably, as they are the ones who have done all of the ground fighting and suffered all of the casualties.

Another benefit of this is that the TNC has actually had some time to work things out--they've had to run a big part of the country and a major military campaign, which has meant coordinating tribal and regional efforts and dealing with historic rivalries. In some ways, this experience may have been better preparation for assuming power than any of the other groups involved in the Arab Spring have gotten.

This could be a huge step forward for all of the region. It may not be exactly what NATO had in mind when it intervened, but hopefully it will be at least something closer to what the Libyan people define as their idea of a just and representative government.

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Hopefully this will be a positive thing for Libya and much of Africa. Ghadaffi had a long if underreported history of propping up strongman dictators in sub-Saharan Africa and contributed to much of the civil war and strife that has cursed that continent for the last quarter-century or so.

While I agree that Western intervention in the internal affairs of other countries is generally a bad thing, there does seem to be a lot of support from most Libyans (and of course I'm getting this from Western media sources, but also from al-Jazeera) for our role so far. The fact we've sent in very few ground troops (mostly to coordinate the air attacks and provide aid) is a rare show of intelligence, because this means that the Libyans have continued to see this as "their" revolution--quite justifiably, as they are the ones who have done all of the ground fighting and suffered all of the casualties.

Another benefit of this is that the TNC has actually had some time to work things out--they've had to run a big part of the country and a major military campaign, which has meant coordinating tribal and regional efforts and dealing with historic rivalries. In some ways, this experience may have been better preparation for assuming power than any of the other groups involved in the Arab Spring have gotten.

This could be a huge step forward for all of the region. It may not be exactly what NATO had in mind when it intervened, but hopefully it will be at least something closer to what the Libyan people define as their idea of a just and representative government.

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I highly doubt it, I expect Libya to become a wild west state but we will see
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What a day of satisfaction for all those who suffered under this evil man.

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