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Re: What do you think about Saudi Arabia?

Great place to live...
No booze + women needs to wear burquas...

How on Earth do you even ask such a question "what do you think about Saudi Arabia" ? OF COURSE, its a Hell On Earth...

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A hellish mess of a client state
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1.do u see or think its possible that all the oil is more a curse to ur country then a blessing?
No but it's a bit of both.
Obviously oil gave us the chance to succeed as a state in the modern world and live comfortable lifes but religious extremism from the elite (not the royal family but their religous partners like Al-Shaikh family) and sticking to worn traditions slowed the process of development in everything and it still play a big role until this day.
We have a high standard of living but there is nothing more to it. We still don't have any political participation and we don't have alot of room for innovation inside the country.
There's alot of room for investment here but it just doesn't happen because the ultra'conservatives always complicate things.
If this wealth was in the hands of a more progressive then it would've been something else in a good way of course.
9/11 was wake up call for the government to stop or limit the influcnce of religous leaders.
They made alot of positive changes in the country by investing more in education. The number of public universites in the last decade increased from around 7 to more than 25 to meet the demand from the young population and improve the quality of education.
They also statrted in 2005 to give free scholarships to students to study abroad.
I'm pretty sure that all of this is going to have a positive impact in the near future.
The atmosphere in the country is generally more liberated nowadays.

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2.name on thing my country has that you would like to have in your country and name one thing your country has that my country doesnt that you would like my country to have?
Even though people argue about Israel being a religious or a secular state, I would like to see in my country the secularism you have.
Unfortunatly, some people here think that secularism is anti-religion.

Since we support the Palestinians to have their own state, I hope your country also fully support the two state solution.

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3.why you have so much money from oil and the best everything can buy and i never heard of a Invention \ Patent \ technological innovation came from Saudi Arabia?
Check the last part of my answer to the first question.

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4.would you like to be a free men?
Can you explain more?
Do you mean to enjoy more social or political freedom?

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5.if there will be a poll one day to Abolish the monarchy and the king will became prime minister just like in any country in the west, would you vote yes?
Most likely yes. I'm not a fan of monarchies and like it more when the public have more power but each country has its own unique sitiuation.
I prefer a constitutional monarchy now but I son't see it happening soon because some prominent members from the royal family are not willing to give up some of their power.

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Re: What do you think about Saudi Arabia?

Have you guys heard a story about UAE man being kicked out of SA for being too hot? His photo surfaced on the net now.
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Great place to live...
No booze + women needs to wear burquas...

How on Earth do you even ask such a question "what do you think about Saudi Arabia" ? OF COURSE, its a Hell On Earth...
I think it's fine to ask such a simple question.
People usually look at a country from the outside with a sterotypical picture that doesn't reflect the whole country and its people.
For example, some people view Poland negatively as a very religious catholic nation but that's not the way to judge a country based on such a narrow view and being religous doesn't mean that it's bad.

Small correction: the common colth to cover the face in Saudi Arabia is niqab not burqa. There is a difference between both.
And they don't "need" to cover their faces in public. It depeneds on the family and the region\city.

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Have you guys heard a story about UAE man being kicked out of SA for being too hot? His photo surfaced on the net now.
Yeah
I don't know what to say if it's true but I will not be surprised if it did happen, nothing surprise me anymore

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Don't know why the post is deleted but I replied anyway.

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Is alcoholic prohibition in SA a fact, or also negative stereotype ?

As for dressing:

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Among non-mahram men, women must cover the parts of the body that are awrah (not meant to be exposed). In much of Islam, a women's face is not considered awrah. In Saudi Arabia and some other Arab states, all of the body is considered awrah except the hands and eyes. Accordingly, most women are expected wear the hijab (head covering), a full black cloak called an abaya, and a face-veil called niqab.

Explain that ?

Honestly, I'd really prefer North Korea over SA. At least I could get drunk there..
Yes it's a fact. For you it's a big problem because you are used to drink but in our culture we never even think about it. At least the weather is hot here and you don't feel the need to drink vodka

As for dressing, religious authorities in Saudi Arabia mostly follow the Hanbali school of religious law which is very strict and conservative compared to the other Sunni schools (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi) and it's only found in Saudi Arabia at the moment. And one of the differences between the Hanabil schools and the other schools, it's that it consider a woman face to be awrah, thus she have to cover it from non-mahrams but other schools don't have the same rule.
This school is popular in Central Arabia while other regions in Arabia follow other schools and there are also followers of other sects like Shias.
Because of this, you will find differences between every region with the way women dress and the culture in general. For example, in the western region alot of people follow the Shafi and Maliki shools which allow women to show thier faces so you will see more women in a city in the western region like Jeedah showing their face in public than a city in the central region like Riyadh.
In the Consultative Assembly of Saudi Arabia (known as Shura Council) there are 30 women and not all of them cover thier faces







The real question about North Korea if they allow alcohol is how much they will allow you to drink? a bottle every week?

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Re: What do you think about Saudi Arabia?

I just wish the Saudi Arabia and the Middle east could get along with the US.....

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Re: What do you think about Saudi Arabia?

What the West mainly thinks about them:

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I just wish the Saudi Arabia and the Middle east could get along with the US.....
Isn't SA "allies" w/USA?

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I just wish the Saudi Arabia and the Middle east could get along with the US.....

Saudi Arabi is a trusted client. It falls in line, so its human rights abuses are overlooked. It's the US's ally.
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