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Bomb threat in London, take care

Police have received a warning of a bomb in central London today, it is thought to be from a Northern Irish catholic splinter group from the IRA.

Remains to be seen whether it's a bluff, but anyone in central London today needs to be watchful and take care.

Hoped those days had gone.

This comes a day before the Queen's landmark visit to the Irish Republic.

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I was in London when this happened:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Bishopsgate_bombing
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Won't go to central london today then, not like I had to go but I wanted to get something.

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Here we go again...bastards. Terrorists are cowards. Irony is London is full of Irish. Not the point I know, but ironic all the same.
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Here we go again...bastards. Terrorists are cowards. Irony is London is full of Irish. Not the point I know, but ironic all the same.
Agree completely as regards to the terrorists. Though need to point out that thankfully these splinter groups have very little support in Ireland or anywhere else, and that even the Queens visit was welcomed by 80% of people in the Irish Republic. Most Irish people, like most Brits, want to move on.

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Where did you get the figure of 80%? I would say the Queen is welcomed by about 30-40% (max) of the entire islands population. Anyway, like many, I have the suspicion there is going to be BIG trouble tomorrow.


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Where did you get the figure of 80%? I would say the Queen is welcomed by about 30-40% (max) of the entire islands population. Anyway, like many, I have the suspicion there is going to be BIG trouble tomorrow.
That the was the poll result on the news today. Of course poll results vary depending on the question but still.

Gerry Adams has been to Downing Street. Im prepared to accept that, as part of the process of moving on. I hope Irish people can approach the Queens visit in the same way.

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Gerry Adams is not the King of Ireland, nor is the Queen a political figure. The British Empire, when at the time Governed by the Royal family invaded Ireland, that is all that matters in the eyes of the entire Republic and Catholic citizens of the North.


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Gerry Adams is not the King of Ireland, nor is the Queen a political figure. The British Empire, when at the time Governed by the Royal family invaded Ireland, that is all that matters in the eyes of the entire Republic and Catholic citizens of the North.
Those poll numbers don't seem to support your view.

My point about Adams was that plenty of Brits found it hard to stomach that he entered Downing street, bearing in mind his prior actions. But it was necessary to move on.

Doubtless many Irish people have trouble with the Queen's visit, but need to view it in the same way, a hard but necessary step to moving on.

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Police have received a warning of a bomb in central London today, it is thought to be from a Northern Irish catholic splinter group from the IRA.
i take issue with your use of the word "catholic". whilst it might be true that many republicans are catholics in northern ireland, the ira and the many groups before it and groups which have splintered from it usually have little to do with religion, and indeed over the years many of the most influential irish republican figures were protestant. i would suggest that "republican" is a more accurate description than "catholic" to describe these groups.

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Here we go again...bastards. Terrorists are cowards. Irony is London is full of Irish. Not the point I know, but ironic all the same.
"terrorists are cowards" is a rather sweeping statement. whilst i might agree that people trying to disrupt the peace process with attacks on civilians are cowardly and quite clearly in the wrong, the IRA, and, for example, the ANC-led terrorism in South Africa could both have been seen as legitimate attempts to aid a downtrodden group of people, and both could also be seen as successful. whilst the methods may not be desirable, it is rather difficult to hit back at a system which controls the army and has a monopoly on the weapons and the money in the area.

i also find the hypocrisy rather amusing. the news led with stories of evil republican terrorists threatening civilians in london....and then continued to talk about the uk and her allies firing missiles and dropping bombs - via aeroplanes where they are totally untouchable - on libyan "targets" which, just like in iraq, afghanistan, serbia and everywhere else have killed and maimed innocent civilians. in much the same way as planting bombs designed to injure the general public is cowardly, so too is uk/us terrorism against people from all over the world. as far as i'm concerned, one is as bad as the other, but of course, we aren't meant to see it that way.

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I'd think its probably a false threat for the purpose of getting attention (and hope so, as I hate 2C civilians hurt in purely symbolic acts). I also hope that Her "Majesty" makes some grand gesture, such as lets say calling for those residents of so-called "Ulster Province" who opt for it to have full representation in Dublin rather than London, and for a commission reporting equally to both governments replace the British position of Secretary of State for Northern Ireland as a goodwill gesture.
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I'd think its probably a false threat for the purpose of getting attention (and hope so, as I hate 2C civilians hurt in purely symbolic acts). I also hope that Her "Majesty" makes some grand gesture, such as lets say calling for those residents of so-called "Ulster Province" who opt for it to have full representation in Dublin rather than London, and for a commission reporting equally to both governments replace the British position of Secretary of State for Northern Ireland as a goodwill gesture.
It's not really her place to do that, she is meant to be an apolitical figure. It's the governments job to decide such things. Her visit is more a symbol, of much improved relations, and of hope for a better future. Remember the Queen herself lost family members to an IRA bomb, so the pain isn't all one-sided.

From a practical point of view the people of the Irish republic need to move on. British tourists are a major part of their tourist industry, and we were one of the few countries to stick up for them during the recent debt crisis.

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I've just come back from Central London. Heard nothing, saw no extra security on the streets and tube

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i take issue with your use of the word "catholic". whilst it might be true that many republicans are catholics in northern ireland, the ira and the many groups before it and groups which have splintered from it usually have little to do with religion, and indeed over the years many of the most influential irish republican figures were protestant. i would suggest that "republican" is a more accurate description than "catholic" to describe these groups.



"terrorists are cowards" is a rather sweeping statement. whilst i might agree that people trying to disrupt the peace process with attacks on civilians are cowardly and quite clearly in the wrong, the IRA, and, for example, the ANC-led terrorism in South Africa could both have been seen as legitimate attempts to aid a downtrodden group of people, and both could also be seen as successful. whilst the methods may not be desirable, it is rather difficult to hit back at a system which controls the army and has a monopoly on the weapons and the money in the area.

i also find the hypocrisy rather amusing. the news led with stories of evil republican terrorists threatening civilians in london....and then continued to talk about the uk and her allies firing missiles and dropping bombs - via aeroplanes where they are totally untouchable - on libyan "targets" which, just like in iraq, afghanistan, serbia and everywhere else have killed and maimed innocent civilians. in much the same way as planting bombs designed to injure the general public is cowardly, so too is uk/us terrorism against people from all over the world. as far as i'm concerned, one is as bad as the other, but of course, we aren't meant to see it that way.
I used Catholic to mirror the way in which people talk of Islamic terrorists.

There is a religious dimension to the conflict, and the supporters of such terror groups are Predominantly catholic just as the Protestant/Unionist terror groups are Protestant.

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Police today have found and defused a small bomb in the luggage hold on a coach in Maynooth, in the Irish republic. The coach was Dublin bound.

Well done to the Irish police. Hope this device is the last of it. The Queen's visit will begin, as planned, today.

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