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Third Palestinian Intifada

This Intifada is taken seriously by Arab & Muslims.
The date is May 15 and alot of people all around the Islamic World are preparing for it.
The plan is :
- 13\5 Friday of the Horn
- 14\5 Saturday of the Roar
- 15\5 Sunday of Liberation
There is now official website after blocking the Facebook page many times.
http://www.3rdintifada.com/



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Wow, I'd heard alot about this but didn't know they had set dates and everything
Well, what's to say I never encourage violence of any kind, but when that's the last and only possible way they have to obtain their legitimate rights and since many see fighting for their (hopefully future) country the only thing that gives meaning to their otherwise disastered life (especially Gazans), then there's not much I condemn, BUT I don't think it's a great time since Hamas and Fatah have just established a pact.
Can't they wait to see how the pact/possible international recognition go, and then try with the intifada? I mean they've had to wait so long (sadly), can't they just hang on a bit longer? I don't think an intifada would help the cause of international recognition.

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Wow, I'd heard alot about this but didn't know they had set dates and everything
Well, what's to say I never encourage violence of any kind, but when that's the last and only possible way they have to obtain their legitimate rights and since many see fighting for their (hopefully future) country the only thing that gives meaning to their otherwise disastered life (especially Gazans), then there's not much I condemn, BUT I don't think it's a great time since Hamas and Fatah have just established a pact.
Can't they wait to see how the pact/possible international recognition go, and then try with the intifada? I mean they've had to wait so long (sadly), can't they just hang on a bit longer? I don't think an intifada would help the cause of international recognition.

P.S. I suggest you get this thread moved into the political subforum
Yes, those are the people who are really fighting for their freedom.
It's really complicated situation right now and i'm not really sure about how successful this will gonna be with all what is happening in other Arab countries.
But it's better than nothing and hopefully there is something positive out of this.

There will be more news and details in the next days.
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Pictures from today in Egypt











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Really people from so many countries care about Palestina?
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I wish they'd all blow up themselves wherever they are. Final intifada.

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Really people from so many countries care about Palestina?
huh?

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I wish they'd all blow up themselves wherever they are. Final intifada.
uhmm...... okay......


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Pictures from today in Egypt











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Very intense fights at Jerusalem






Milad Samir Ayyash (16 years), the first Palestinian killed in the Intifada







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Yes, those are the people who are really fighting for their freedom.
It's so hypocritical for the Arab nations to criticise Israel for human rights abuses. What about the rights of women and other minorities in the Arab world? When's their Infitada.



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It's so hypocritical for the Arab nations to criticise Israel for human rights abuses. What about the rights of women and other minorities in the Arab world? When's their Infitada.
When neither men nor women have basic human and economic rights, and when you're a gazan and don't even have access to water, women's rights doesn't even cross your mind. First they'll try to obtain basic rights, then maybe the gender equality issue can step in. And, as far as palestinians are concerned (both palestinians in "palestine" and those who are refugees) compared to the rest of the arab world, women are treated well and equality really isn't an issue.

And I hate the generalization of "arab world" as one huge country and population, each country and population are extremely unique, socially and historically. Palestinians will think about fighting their battle, women in other arab countries will fight theirs when and if they want. And, even if you're statement made sense, Israel's violations of human rights towards the palestinians, year after year and event after event, doesn't even come near keeping women in a subordinate social position.



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Violence isn't going to solve the issue though. It's just going to make Israel even more militaristic!



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Violence isn't going to solve the issue though. It's just going to make Israel even more militaristic!
I completely agree, but that's the only last possibility/desire these frustrated people have. Diplomacy has failed time and time again.
UN substantally tried to get in many times, both denouncing human rights violations and trying to get some resolutions going, but the US blocked every possibility with it's veto power as a security council member.
Israel said it wouldn't debate with a divided government, so Fatah and Hamas reconciled and now Israel is saying it still refuses to deal.
When the wikileaks period was in full flow, a series of documents came out on Israel-Palestine relations. Palestinian authority was willing to give Israel Jerusalem and a nice slice of west bank, but Israel still refused And Condoleeza Rice suggested sending palestinian refugees off to south america
The block on Gaza has seriously reached incredibly inhumane conditions.

So, what else is there really left to do than not pick up rocks and start throwing them?


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Really people from so many countries care about Palestina?
That's what's always baffled me too.
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It's so hypocritical for the Arab nations to criticise Israel for human rights abuses. What about the rights of women and other minorities in the Arab world? When's their Infitada.
The Palestinians want their right of living a normal life and to get back to their homelands.
And no one is perfect, both sides have fair share of mistakes (bad leaders, pointless wars ...).

As for women rights issue, i am a Saudi man and as you know Saudi Arabia is the most conservative country in the middle east.
Women here aren't oppressed just because the majority cover their faces or driving cars is not allowed, it's just different culture and traditions from what you have in the western countries.
They live normal life and actually more than half of the students at public universities are females.
And don't worry, there is alot of changes happening in Saudi Arabia now and maybe it will not take a long time when women will be allowed to drive.
As for the minorities, i study now at King Fahd University which is located in the eastern province where most of the Shia minority live and there is many Shia students who study at the university and didn't face any problem to get accepted into it and many of them work at well known companies.
It's really sad to see this kind of generalization.
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