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What do you mean when you say "Indie" Hip Hop?
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What do you mean when you say "Indie" Hip Hop?
Clearly I mean Hip-Hop from Indiana. Thanks for the correction. I mean independent and/or underground Hip-hop

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Clearly I mean Hip-Hop from Indiana. Thanks for the correction. I mean independent and/or underground Hip-hop
No, I wasn't questioning the spelling, only how you categorized "indie" hip hip. Because, as far as I'm concerned, there is no such thing. So when people use that term it makes me wonder the kind of Hip Hop artists they would classify as "Indie" Hip Hop.
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If you're talking about alternative hip-hop for hipsters (i.e. Pitchfork recommended), then I love Das Racist.




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No, I wasn't questioning the spelling, only how you categorized "indie" hip hip. Because, as far as I'm concerned, there is no such thing. So when people use that term it makes me wonder the kind of Hip Hop artists they would classify as "Indie" Hip Hop.
Okay. So you see all Hip-Hop as being the major label narrow format stuff that fills the airwaves? Maybe I'm not getting exactly what you mean.

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Yes, only some Hip Hop artists (the artists I listen to the most) make music more grounded in its original roots of purpose. There are no sub-genres of Hip Hop (except Underground which is nothing like what people call "indie"). When people do that, it belittles the genre as far as I'm concerned. When I hear the term indie hip hop I think "hip-hop for hipsters (i.e. Pitchfork recommended)." Hip Hop for hipsters = hip hop artists that rap about comfortable, mostly detached subjects that make it easy for people desperate to connect with a culture they don't necessarily understand. In a sense, it's musical gentrification.

When I hear people call artists like A Tribe Called Quest, Public Enemy and Immortal Technique "indie hip hop" I cringe. Like, really? Shows a complete ignorance about the genre and it's culture.

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Without getting involved in whether it should be classed as indie or not, if you're just asking for lesser known acts when you say indie, then the entire Funcrusher Plus album by Company Flow is pretty stellar.

Daniela Hantuchova.

Casey Dellacqua, Jelena Jankovic, Anna-Lena Groenefeld,
Jelena Dokic, Mirjana Lucic, Sara Tomic, Sloane Stephens
Melanie Oudin, Kiki Bertens, Kaia Kanepi, Alison Riske
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There are no sub-genres of Hip Hop
how so?

i think your post was very interesting - but at the same time i think you knew pretty well what the OP meant labelling music is always difficult, no matter the genre. i remember all the discussions i had in my life about whether a certain band was indie rock or not. it's futile. just take a look at the tags people invent on last.fm (e.g. "what the fuck is this shit", lol). and with your musical knowledge, i'm sure you have some valuable recommendations.


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how so?

i think your post was very interesting - but at the same time i think you knew pretty well what the OP meant labelling music is always difficult, no matter the genre. i remember all the discussions i had in my life about whether a certain band was indie rock or not. it's futile. just take a look at the tags people invent on last.fm (e.g. "what the fuck is this shit", lol). and with your musical knowledge, i'm sure you have some valuable recommendations.
Eh, it's complicated. Anyway, you're right, it is difficult. I've just gotten so tired of people calling Hip Hop artists like Mos Def, The Roots, Q-Tip, Lupe, The Cool Kids, etc "Indie" Hip Hop that it irks me to even hear the term. But that's not necessarily fair.

Anyways, recommendations from newer artists:

The Cool Kids (The Bake Sale)
Kidz In The Hall (The In Crowd)
Foreign Exchange (Connected)
K'naan (Troubadour)
N.A.S.A. (The Spirit of Apollo)
Kid Sister (Ultra Violet)
Childish Gambino (I Am Just A Rapper 1 & 2)
Hoodie Allen (Pep Rally mixtape)
Das Rascist (Sit Down, Man...their other album, Shut Up, Dude good too)
Grand Buffet (King Vision)
Jay Electronica (check out his Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind mixtape)

More mainstream but good hip hop albums:

The Roots (How I Got Over)
Wale (The Mixtape About Nothing & More About Nothing)
Curren$y (Pilot Talk)
Q-Tip (The Renaissance)
Mos Def (The Ecstatic)
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Yes, only some Hip Hop artists (the artists I listen to the most) make music more grounded in its original roots of purpose. There are no sub-genres of Hip Hop (except Underground which is nothing like what people call "indie"). When people do that, it belittles the genre as far as I'm concerned. When I hear the term indie hip hop I think "hip-hop for hipsters (i.e. Pitchfork recommended)." Hip Hop for hipsters = hip hop artists that rap about comfortable, mostly detached subjects that make it easy for people desperate to connect with a culture they don't necessarily understand. In a sense, it's musical gentrification.

When I hear people call artists like A Tribe Called Quest, Public Enemy and Immortal Technique "indie hip hop" I cringe. Like, really? Shows a complete ignorance about the genre and it's culture.

Anyways, work time. Good luck with your search!
Interesting. I think there are "sub-genres" of Hip-Hop. IMO not acknowledging that reduces Hip-Hop to something far less than it is. Hip-Hop isn't just about Gangsta or even "street" - although much of it was pushed in that direction. To think that devalues the richness and diversity of African-American cultures. The idea that there's a single African- American culture and that it is street is a captivating delusion foisted by those who benefit from it.

Beyond that, musical styles - like everything else - change and expand.

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Re: Indie Hip-Hop

I really like The Niceguys and Odd Future, although I fear they are headed in the direction of that Hipster accessible SXSW shit
Also, check out the soundtracks to the anime Samurai Champloo (trust me, lol), mostly created by tsutchie and Force of Nature. Its not American hip-hop, but its still beautiful, epic music.
J*Davey, Frank Ocean too.


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Eh, it's complicated. Anyway, you're right, it is difficult. I've just gotten so tired of people calling Hip Hop artists like Mos Def, The Roots, Q-Tip, Lupe, The Cool Kids, etc "Indie" Hip Hop that it irks me to even hear the term. But that's not necessarily fair.

Anyways, recommendations from newer artists:

The Cool Kids (The Bake Sale)
Kidz In The Hall (The In Crowd)
Foreign Exchange (Connected)
K'naan (Troubadour)
N.A.S.A. (The Spirit of Apollo)
Kid Sister (Ultra Violet)
Childish Gambino (I Am Just A Rapper 1 & 2)
Hoodie Allen (Pep Rally mixtape)
Das Rascist (Sit Down, Man...their other album, Shut Up, Dude good too)
Grand Buffet (King Vision)
Jay Electronica (check out his Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind mixtape)

More mainstream but good hip hop albums:

The Roots (How I Got Over)
Wale (The Mixtape About Nothing & More About Nothing)
Curren$y (Pilot Talk)
Q-Tip (The Renaissance)
Mos Def (The Ecstatic)
Thanks to you as I know you kinda weren't feeling it. And . . dang? I know The Roots, Q-Tip, Mos-Def and . . .that's it.

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how so?

i think your post was very interesting - but at the same time i think you knew pretty well what the OP meant labelling music is always difficult, no matter the genre. i remember all the discussions i had in my life about whether a certain band was indie rock or not. it's futile. just take a look at the tags people invent on last.fm (e.g. "what the fuck is this shit", lol). and with your musical knowledge, i'm sure you have some valuable recommendations.
Thanks for weighing in and smoothing the path.

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labelling music is always difficult, no matter the genre.
genre labelling is best when the distinctions mean something to your listening habits. in my digitial collection i've managed, with much diligence, to stick to a total of 13 genres for some years now ...

9 of the 13 relate to reggae. most of the non reggae stuff i regard as pop. works for me ... would probably be hell if you aren't me!

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