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Anyone know anything about the following US and Canadian universities?

Hi everyone,

I'm considering going on exchange next year and was thinking of going to either the US or Canada. I'm currently studying at the Australian National University and they offer exchanges with a couple of partner universities within the US and Canada. There was a list of partner universities and Iíve narrowed the list down to the following:

-State University of New York (Brockport or Stonybrook) I have to say Iím really leaning towards New York at the moment so any information on these campuses would be awesome!
-University of California (apparently I have to apply to the university of California system and not to individual campuses)
-University of Washington
-University of Ottawa
-University of Toronto

I donít know much about them though, so I was hoping someone could provide some advice as to which of these universities is best in terms of ranking and affordability. I think my tuition fees will remain the same as here so Iím also wondering about accommodation costs etc. This was quite a spontaneous decision and Iíve never been to the US or Canada so any advice will be much appreciated!

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In terms of ranking, Toronto technically ranks higher than Ottawa, but both are fine universities. Our universities are publicly funded, so even the "shit" universities are passable. If you're going for international recognition, Toronto is probably a bigger name, if only because it's in Toronto.

What are you going to study?

Ottawa might be a tiny bit cheaper to live in, but it depends on which Toronto campus you're comparing it to.

There is a lot more to do in Toronto, obviously. If you care about nightlife or culture, I'd go with Toronto over Ottawa.

Toronto has milder winters, too.
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Toronto is good. And its expensive for sure. But there is a lot to do. And the campus is right downtown.
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UC Santa Barbara has a beautiful campus and probably the party school of the UC system.

UC Irvine doesn't have much appeal but is a very solid school academically.

UC Berkeley is our country's #1 public university. Academics there are some of the best in the world, and sits in a very diverse, interesting community with lots of great places to eat. It is also very, very left-leaning. So super gay and environment friendly.

UC San Diego sits in beautiful La Jolla but doesn't have much of a school culture. Very strong academically, especially in biology and international studies.

UCLA is located right near Beverly Hills Probably only second to Berkeley academics wise. Culture is very different though.

Don't know much about UC Santa Cruz besides the fact that their mascot is the banana slug.

I hope you don't end up in UC Merced or UC Riverside.

Tuition to all UC schools are about the same. What makes one place affordable or not to live in is really the community where the campus is located.
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thanks for the responses everyone I have to come up with three preferences in about a month. Are there any New Yorkers here?? I would love to hear from you guys too!

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In terms of ranking, Toronto technically ranks higher than Ottawa, but both are fine universities. Our universities are publicly funded, so even the "shit" universities are passable. If you're going for international recognition, Toronto is probably a bigger name, if only because it's in Toronto.

What are you going to study?

Ottawa might be a tiny bit cheaper to live in, but it depends on which Toronto campus you're comparing it to.

There is a lot more to do in Toronto, obviously. If you care about nightlife or culture, I'd go with Toronto over Ottawa.

Toronto has milder winters, too.
I think the reason I was leaning towards Ottawa is because I have a few relatives there and my cousin goes to the University of Ottawa and I guess it's always good to know someone before starting. The fact that it's slightly cheaper also helps

I'm currently doing a Bachelor of Global and Ocean sciences and hoping to major in marine biochemistry. So I'm hoping to study something along those lines overseas but I haven't looked into the science faculties at these universities.

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UC Santa Barbara has a beautiful campus and probably the party school of the UC system.

UC Irvine doesn't have much appeal but is a very solid school academically.

UC Berkeley is our country's #1 public university. Academics there are some of the best in the world, and sits in a very diverse, interesting community with lots of great places to eat. It is also very, very left-leaning. So super gay and environment friendly.

UC San Diego sits in beautiful La Jolla but doesn't have much of a school culture. Very strong academically, especially in biology and international studies.

UCLA is located right near Beverly Hills Probably only second to Berkeley academics wise. Culture is very different though.

Don't know much about UC Santa Cruz besides the fact that their mascot is the banana slug.

I hope you don't end up in UC Merced or UC Riverside.

Tuition to all UC schools are about the same. What makes one place affordable or not to live in is really the community where the campus is located.
thanks for that! I only knew a bit about the Berkeley campus and I didn't know much about the rest. I think I will put the University of California system as one of my preferences and hope for the best! From what you've told me, I like the sound of San Diego and LA. UC Merced isn't one of our exchange partners so I just hope I don't end up at Riverside

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I'll touch on Crazy_Canucks points too, since I don't know about the other universities.

UofT has a better international reputation, but I don't think the profs/classes are really much better from what I've heard from my friends who go there. I've visited U of Ottawa and its a really nice campus, one of the better Canadian universities academic-wise as well.

I like Ottawa more than Toronto actually - there are still a ton of places to go drinking/downtown/partying, but the city isn't overwhelmingly big like Toronto. Everything feels more connected and laidback. Oh and I think the people in Ottawa are way nicer than the ones in Toronto.
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I think the reason I was leaning towards Ottawa is because I have a few relatives there and my cousin goes to the University of Ottawa and I guess it's always good to know someone before starting. The fact that it's slightly cheaper also helps

I'm currently doing a Bachelor of Global and Ocean sciences and hoping to major in marine biochemistry. So I'm hoping to study something along those lines overseas but I haven't looked into the science faculties at these universities.
I know many people in Ottawa, too, and would certainly consider it for future employment/academic pursuits. It does have horrid winters though, I'm not going to lie. There is some decent architecture in the city, though, if you like looking at buildings, and it's a pretty good university. If that's what you were learning towards in Canada, then stick with it. Mind you, Ottawa is nowhere near an Ocean , so you might want to look into how good their program is; I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Toronto (also nowhere near the Ocean, but undoubtedly has a Marine Biology program) had a better one, just by virtue of being much bigger.

To be frank, I have no idea which of the two is better for Marine Bio, Ocean Sciences, etc.
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I'll touch on Crazy_Canucks points too, since I don't know about the other universities.

UofT has a better international reputation, but I don't think the profs/classes are really much better from what I've heard from my friends who go there. I've visited U of Ottawa and its a really nice campus, one of the better Canadian universities academic-wise as well.

I like Ottawa more than Toronto actually - there are still a ton of places to go drinking/downtown/partying, but the city isn't overwhelmingly big like Toronto. Everything feels more connected and laidback. Oh and I think the people in Ottawa are way nicer than the ones in Toronto.
Ryan forgot to point out that every Canada who wasn't raised in Ontario hates Toronto

I disagree with him that the people in Ottawa are nicer. In Ottawa they have the whole French/English bullshit issue that nobody west of there gives a shit about it. Anecdote: A friend of mine used to bag groceries as a part time job in university and got shat on weekly for being unable to speak perfect French to the occasional douchebag customer that went through.

In short, both cities have people problems. The uni kids in Ottawa might be a bit more friendly, though; I don't really know.
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Don't rule out University of Washington. Haven't been there but supposedly it has one of the most beautiful campuses in the US, and Seattle is in a great natural setting. Academically, it is also among the best and on par (or slightly below) Berkeley and UCLA. Of course it depends a lot on your major. (edit: it's lower in the rankings than I suspected but still among the best public schools).

If I were you I'd go like this:

University of California (nothing beats California weather).
University of Washington
don't care about the rest. And Canada is too cold.
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to the Canadian posters- do you think it would be tough living in Ottawa for about 5 months without knowing much french? I mean, I know a bit of basic french from high school but that's about it and without knowing french, would I have any chance of getting a casual job there?

and yeah I'm going to research the marine bio program in Ottawa now

Also Apoleb, is the cost of living in Washington really high? I did quickly look up the University of Washington and the campus is indeed amazing!

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You don't need to speak French to live in Ottawa, so you'll be fine. And you can certainly get casual work without knowing any French, as my friend the former grocery bagger can attest to.
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My son is a freshman at the U of T. He absolutely loves it there.

One of the nice things about the Canadian schools is they are cheaper than the US schools, even for international students.

One of the things he likes about U of T is that it's right in downtown Toronto, so there's about a bazillion things to do. And it has a really nice blend of international students--his best friends include not only fellow Yanks and kids from Canada, but also students from Turkey, Dubai, Korea and Serbia. So I think it having a big reputation does help it attract a decent number of foreign students. He also says that despite rumors to the contrary, he hasn't had any problem getting to see and interact with professors when he needs to.

For him, the big factors on choosing U of T were:
1. academic repuation
2. location in a major urban area
3. our family having a gajillion Canadian relatives even though we live in Texas
4. (and probably most important) he could double major in Asian Studies and Music and still graduate in four years (most other schools he looked at would have required summer school or a fifth year).

UCLA is one of the trendiest schools in the US right now, and really hard to get into.

Berkeley is a historically great school, but in the midst of a major financial crisis.

U of W is a strong school for sure--underrated in the US and actually rated higher by some foreign publications IIRC.

I don't know much about the New York schools.

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to the Canadian posters- do you think it would be tough living in Ottawa for about 5 months without knowing much french? I mean, I know a bit of basic french from high school but that's about it and without knowing french, would I have any chance of getting a casual job there?

and yeah I'm going to research the marine bio program in Ottawa now

Also Apoleb, is the cost of living in Washington really high? I did quickly look up the University of Washington and the campus is indeed amazing!


Like Becca said, you don't need ANY french to get by in Ottawa, so don't worry about that.

She makes a really good point about Ocean Sciences programs. I know Dalhousie University in Halifax (mah home towwwwn) has a great sciences/marine biology/ocean sciences program. Its got the most bars per capita in North America too, so thats always a plus.
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Ryan forgot to point out that every Canada who wasn't raised in Ontario hates Toronto

I disagree with him that the people in Ottawa are nicer. In Ottawa they have the whole French/English bullshit issue that nobody west of there gives a shit about it. Anecdote: A friend of mine used to bag groceries as a part time job in university and got shat on weekly for being unable to speak perfect French to the occasional douchebag customer that went through.

In short, both cities have people problems. The uni kids in Ottawa might be a bit more friendly, though; I don't really know.
I would go a step further and say that everyone that does not live in Toronto hates Toronto and it can be applied to some of us that live here as well. There is the belief that Torontonians believe that Toronto is the centre of the universe and I can certainly see that, though its really not different than New York, Paris and London in that respect
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The University of Washington sounds pretty good so far because it does have a good marine sciences program.

As for the University of Ottawa, I don't even know if an undergraduate marine sciences program exists I saw that there were science programs but they weren't about marine science specifically I haven't checked about U of T yet.

Ryan, funnily enough I ended up on a page about the marine sciences program at Dalhousie whilst searching about the program in Ottawa Dalhousie is actually one of our partner universities too so maybe I should consider it as a preference. I have to write up a statement about the suitability of each university for my major so it would be helpful to find a university that does have a strong ocean sciences program

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