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Irish 'plot to kill cartoonist'

18:24 GMT, Tuesday, 9 March 2010
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/europe/8558022.stm

Seven people have been arrested in the Irish Republic over an alleged plot to kill a Swedish cartoonist for depicting the Prophet Muhammad, police say. The four men and three women are all Muslim immigrants, according to media reports, though a police statement did not confirm this.

Cartoonist Lars Vilks had depicted the Prophet Muhammad with the body of a dog in the Nerikes Allehanda newspaper. Islamic militants put a $100,000 (£67,000) bounty on his head. Mr Vilks was quoted as saying he was unfazed by the arrests, which he said he thought could be linked to two death threats he had received by telephone in January.

Irish police said the seven suspects were arrested after an investigation into a "conspiracy to murder an individual in another jurisdiction", a probe that also involved police in the US and other European countries. "I have an axe here in case someone should manage to get in through the window"

The suspects ranged in age from their mid-20s to late-40s. Ireland's RTE news network reported that five were detained in Waterford and two others in Cork. RTE said those in custody were originally refugees from Morocco and Yemen, but had gained asylum and were in the Republic of Ireland legally.

Mr Vilks has been under police protection in Sweden since threats were made against his life. "I'm not shaking with fear, exactly," he told Swedish news agency TT after Tuesday's arrests. "I have prepared in different ways and I have an axe here in case someone should manage to get in through the window."

In 2007 a group linked to al-Qaeda in Iraq offered a $100,000 reward for killing Mr Vilks, and a 50% bonus if he was "slaughtered like a lamb" by having his throat cut. It offered another $50,000 for the murder of Ulf Johansson, editor-in-chief of the regional newspaper, Nerikes Allehanda.

The Vilks controversy arose in 2007, when his entry in an arts project was published by the newspaper. It pictured a dog with the head of a bearded man in a turban. Several Muslim countries protested against the picture. At the time, Swedish officials expressed regret at any hurt caused to Muslims' feelings, but said the government could not prevent the publication of such drawings because of media freedom rules.

The case came about a year and a half after a series of depictions of Muhammad in Denmark's Jyllands-Posten paper caused an uproar in early 2006. Those cartoons sparked protests from Muslims around the world. Dozens of people were killed in riots. Muslims regard any image of the Prophet Muhammad as blasphemy.

In January, one of the cartoonists whose drawing appeared in Jyllands-Posten, the Dane Kurt Westergaard, was targeted in his own home, allegedly by a Somali radical Muslim with an axe. Mr Westergaard, who escaped unharmed, had depicted the Prophet Muhammad with a bomb in his turban. Mr Vilks told The Associated Press news agency that the telephone threats in January had come from "a Swedish-speaking Somali. He reminded me about what had happened to Westergaard and threatened with a follow-up and that 'now it's your turn'."

[Hey al-Qaeda: in Ireland you first shoot your opponents in the knees (kneecapping) so they can never walk normally again]
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lmfao.Gotta love the "halal ritual slaughter" bonus.

What's more concerning is that these people were given asylum.So much for the prosecuted poor people who only want to start a new life in Europe
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Kneecapping was also a favoured tool against 'wayward' members of their own community in Northern Ireland, like joyriders for example. Northern Ireland is a good example that Islam had no monopoly on murderous terrorists with partially religious motivation, be they Catholic or Protestant.

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Not just joyriders they dealt with drug dealers and any anti-social behaviour.

Hence why crime in the border region has increased since 1997.
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Kneecapping was also a favoured tool against 'wayward' members of their own community in Northern Ireland, like joyriders for example. Northern Ireland is a good example that Islam had no monopoly on murderous terrorists with partially religious motivation, be they Catholic or Protestant.
Nonsense. I'm pretty positive IRA stood for Islamic Republican Army, and UDA stands for Umar's Defense Association (the reference to Umar, of course, being a slap at Shi'ites).

Also, it's not terrorism if you bomb abortion clinics or kill people who work in them.

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Not just joyriders they dealt with drug dealers and any anti-social behaviour.

Hence why crime in the border region has increased since 1997.
I guess the answer is having a police force that can command the respect and co-operation of both sides of the community, which hopefully we are closer to doing after today's vote.

Can't be healthy to have paramilitary groups 'policing' their own communities.

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Well not really in the area not far from me in South Armagh there was an Real IRA road block recently where they said they would deal with all anti-social behavious, drug dealing and any one who reports them to police services.

I know one village in particular where apparently this new "respected" police force won't even go.
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Well not really in the area not far from me in South Armagh there was an Real IRA road block recently where they said they would deal with all anti-social behavious, drug dealing and any one who reports them to police services.

I know one village in particular where apparently this new "respected" police force won't even go.
What is the solution?

The Real IRA have a novel notion of law and order...anti-social behaviour is seen as this terrible wrong, but their own brutalty, their own murder, is still seen by themselves as noble. Despite the fact the bulk of people, in Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland and Mainland Britain are desperate to move on and build a better future, however imperfect and rife with problems it may be.

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My point was certain people will support them when the police are weak at dealing with drug dealers and the like.
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My point was certain people will support them when the police are weak at dealing with drug dealers and the like.
But surely even a weak police force is better than a murderous terrorist force which is what the Real IRA are?

I fully recognise that the old RUC had no trust in the Catholic community, and frequently turned a blind eye or was complicit in brutal actions by Protestant terror groups. But the only solution I can think of is a more representative police force, from both sides of the community, and an end to groups like the Real IRA handing out their own twisted forms of justice on members of their own community who they decide are guilty.

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I agree, but its kinda similar to the whole concept of "Would the world safer with the USSR around". And it probably would be, not that I remember those days.

But this is going a little off topic lol, as a mod I shouldn't be contributing to the off topic-ness
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