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Italian Olympians's Names: Not Your Typical Italian Names

I have noticed that in this winter olympic, many the Italian athlete name are not typical of what is generally known as Italian name. At least in the US.

Many of the names sound rather germanic or scandinavian, ofen ending with "er", not "one", "lli", "cci", or "ni" as I am more famliar with.

But then again, I am no italian antropologist


For those who are familiar with Ittaly demography and geography, is there a part of Italy where those names prevalent?
Or is this is simply a randomness of isolated immigration from other parts of Europe?

I am jusr curious. This is the first olympic I noticed this.

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Italy has a small German speaking part: South Tirol. And that part happens to be in the Alps. So it's not a coincidence at all.

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Italy has a small German speaking part: South Tirol. And that part happens to be in the Alps. So it's not a coincidence at all.
Ok, that explains it.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trentin.../S%C3%BCdtirol

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Re: Italian Olympians's Names: Not Your Typical Italian Names

Merci beaucoup. Tres informatif.

I really appreciate this piece of information.
I have had this question on my mind the entire duration of the olympic.
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Re: Italian Olympians's Names: Not Your Typical Italian Names

It's a bit like a lot of my French ancestors having names like Wagner and Mosler. Some of those border regions get swapped around a lot.

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It's a bit like a lot of my French ancestors having names like Wagner and Mosler. Some of those border regions get swapped around a lot.
It's like the opening song of the Musical Chess: Merano

"Fight now we're Italian - we used to be German, the border keeps shifting around"

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I know Nicolas Bean doesn't speak the language.
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From what I read on link provided by Diam's, the region populated by the Italian german has limited autonomy and t is divided into 2 provinces:
  • Autonomous Province of Bolzano-Bozen, majority German (69% speak German), with a minorit speaking Ladin
  • Autonomous Province of Trento, majority Italian
For each province, the Italian goverment recognizes a brand of autonomy.
It is like South-west of the US( Californina, New Mexico, Arizona) formerly part of the Mexico having an autonomy granted by Washington.

Which would never happen in the US, as it would be seen by many as a concession to Mexico , worse, an "attempt to destroy America" in some quarters.

From all indications from outside, this seems to work fine since I have never heard reports of any major friction between the Italo-Italians and Italo-Germans.
Can any one confirm this? And why?

By the way, who are the people who speak Ladin? Their origin and lineage

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I have noticed that in this winter olympic, many the Italian athlete name are not typical of what is generally known as Italian name. At least in the US.

Many of the names sound rather germanic or scandinavian, ofen ending with "er", not "one", "lli", "cci", or "ni" as I am more famliar with.

But then again, I am no italian antropologist


For those who are familiar with Ittaly demography and geography, is there a part of Italy where those names prevalent?
Or is this is simply a randomness of isolated immigration from other parts of Europe?

I am jusr curious. This is the first olympic I noticed this.
It's not just Winter Olympians. Alex Schwazer, who won the 50km race-walk in Beijing, is from that region on the borders.

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Ladin or Latin?
The link says Ladin.
It is not a typo
It is a language

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It's not just Winter Olympians. Alex Schwazer, who won the 50km race-walk in Beijing, is from that region on the borders.
Ok. Thanks
I only noticed during the Winter olympic, because the Bolzano-Bozen names are more prominent here.
At least to me anyway

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