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Atheist Summer Camp For British Kids

Seems like a reaction to the religious camps that you get. Not sure how many kids would fancy spending their summers learning about critical thinking, evolutionary biology and so on but that's what they'll be doing.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle6591236.ece

It's backed by God Delusion author Richard Dawkins.

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Sounds like fun where do I sign up?

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Meh. I find it just as annoying when someone parades their lack of belief as when someone flaunts their faith. All of you, off of my porch.

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At least more original than fat camp!

I agree with you though Max. People shouldn't use their beliefs/or lack of belief as a focal point. Beliefs should always be private. For the most part anyway.
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Hope they don't get hit by lightning.
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Meh. I find it just as annoying when someone parades their lack of belief as when someone flaunts their faith. All of you, off of my porch.
Agreed.

Why don't they just send their kids to a normal summer camp? The only reason to emphasize that this is an "atheist camp" is to purposefully slap religious people in the face. It's childish.
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Agreed.

Why don't they just send their kids to a normal summer camp? The only reason to emphasize that this is an "atheist camp" is to purposefully slap religious people in the face. It's childish.
I agree.
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Looks like atheism is starting to mimic organized religion.
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Agreed.

Why don't they just send their kids to a normal summer camp? The only reason to emphasize that this is an "atheist camp" is to purposefully slap religious people in the face. It's childish.
Just like religious camps are attempts to slap Atheist in the face? I think both form of camps are fine. I see nothing wrong with parents sending their children to a religious summer camp nor do I see it as a slap in the face to Atheist. Heaven forbid you surround yourself with like minded individuals!

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Agreed.

Why don't they just send their kids to a normal summer camp? The only reason to emphasize that this is an "atheist camp" is to purposefully slap religious people in the face. It's childish.
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I agree with nearly everyone in this thread.
I consider myself an atheist, as i don't believe there's a god and there's no religion in my life. But that's it. It's something that's not present in my life, it's a lack of, it's an inactive thing.
These kind of camps do make it active, make atheism almost like a religion in itself.

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Just like religious camps are attempts to slap Atheist in the face? I think both form of camps are fine. I see nothing wrong with parents sending their children to a religious summer camp nor do I see it as a slap in the face to Atheist. Heaven forbid you surround yourself with like minded individuals!
There's a difference between an "I believe!" club and an "I don't believe!" club. The latter is almost always started as a slight to the former.

If you don't believe, swell. There's no need to celebrate it. I seriously doubt there is a "God," and I think religion is bogus, but I still think that this "atheist camp" is nothing more than an attempt to insult a group of people.
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Hmmm... interesting. I have my reservations with a Dawkins-affiliated camp naturally, since his stance on atheism is almost fundamentalist in nature. However, the objectives of the camp strike me as very legitimate. IMO, it's the the loaded words of the article writer - "budding atheists" etc contribute to the dogmatic feel of the camp.

I don't see anything wrong with educating kinds on critical thinking, rational skepticism, moral philosophy and evolutionary biology; in fact, it's applaudable. These are essential tools and knowledge even in the non-religious aspects of our lives - and it just so happens that people equipped with such tools and knowledge, and who use them, almost invariably turn out to be atheists or agnostics. Given the nature of skepticism, if the course were conducted right, none of the kids should end up holding fundamentalist atheistic beliefs. If they become atheists, they'll become working atheists who will readily change their minds should sufficient evidence for the existence of God emerge.

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There's a difference between an "I believe!" club and an "I don't believe!" club. The latter is almost always started as a slight to the former.

If you don't believe, swell. There's no need to celebrate it. I seriously doubt there is a "God," and I think religion is bogus, but I still think that this "atheist camp" is nothing more than an attempt to insult a group of people.
I'm a proud atheist and I do celebrate it. In my personal celebration I feel no need to slight people of faith. The religious right is such a strong froce in America and most of the world which leads many Atheist to feel isolated and marginalized. So I see nothing wrong with Atheist getting together and celebrating their shared nonbelief. I was an atheist at the age of 13 and I went to "normal" summer camp. It would have been awesome if I had the chance to go to an Atheist summer camp instead.

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I bet this is the most depressing group of kids a summer camp has ever seen I can only imagine what kind of stories the counselors hear.

"Well, timmy told me that it took the death of his mother and father in a fiery accident as well as his dog getting cancer for him to realize that there is no God...and I said welcome home. "
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