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Need help picking a breed like a golden retriever but smaller

hello,

i am excited, i will be allowed pets up to 30lbs.

i have spent a year studying and learning about Golden Retrievers and being around them so i fell in love with the breed. but they are much to big and we dont have a large yard or a place for the long walks i would need to make.

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i want a small dog less then 30lb,
must be ok with short daily walks (very small grounds of the condo)
friendly and very loving, good with other dogs (there will be a shih-tzu)

right now i am leaning toward a miniature poodle but i want to be open to all options.



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i am not going to buy a dog i am going to go through a breed rescue with a breed rescue is similar to a pound or shelter but the get dogs from shelters mostly and owners. most dogs are ones that shelters could not adopt or were faced with over crowding.

this is are the top picks right now:
based on things i put in (smaller, very loving, light exercise but playful and fun, easy with dogs and people this is what the experts at discovery channel have recommended for me.


bichon frise



Temperament
Perky, bouncy and playful, the bichon frise's happy-go-lucky outlook endears it to all. It is friendly toward strangers and other dogs and pets, and it is very good with children. It is sensitive, responsive and affectionate, as eager to cuddle as it is to play. It can bark a lot.

Upkeep
Although small, the bichon is an active dog and needs daily exercise. Its needs can be met with a vigorous indoor game or, better, a romp in the yard or a short walk on leash. The white powder-puff coat needs brushing and combing every other day, plus scissoring and trimming every two months. It doesn't shed, but the loose hairs become entangled in the coat and can mat. It may be difficult to keep white in some areas. This is not a dog that should live outdoors.

miniature schnauzer



Temperament
The miniature schnauzer deserves its place as one of the most popular terrier pets. It is playful, inquisitive, alert, spunky and companionable. It is a well-mannered house dog that also enjoys being in the middle of activities. It is less domineering than the larger schnauzers and less dog-aggressive than most terriers. It is also better with other animals than most terriers, although it will gladly give chase. It is clever and can be stubborn, but it is generally biddable. It enjoys children. Some may bark a lot.

Upkeep
This energetic breed can have its exercise requirements met with a moderate walk on leash or a good game in the yard. Even though it can physically survive living outdoors in warm to temperate climates, it emotionally needs to share its life with its family inside the home. Its wire coat needs combing once or twice weekly, plus scissoring and shaping (clipping for pets and stripping for show dogs) every couple of months.


miniature poodle



The miniature poodle is lively, amiable, playful, eager to please, responsive, smart and obedient — small wonder that it has remained one of the most popular varieties of dog for so long. It is sensitive, tending to be devoted to one person, and initially reserved with strangers. It is good with children, other pets and dogs. Some tend to bark a lot.

Upkeep
All poodles need a lot of interaction with people. They also need mental and physical exercise. A brief but challenging obedience or play session, combined with a walk, should be part of every poodle's day. Standard poodles will need more exercise and may especially enjoy swimming. No poodle should live outdoors. The show poodle should preferably be brushed every day or weekly for shorter coats. Poodle hair, when shed, does not fall out but becomes caught in the surrounding hair, which can cause matting if not removed. The pet clips are easier to maintain and can be done every four to six weeks.


toy poodle


The pert and peppy toy poodle is one of the brightest and easiest breeds to train. It is alert, responsive, playful, lively, sensitive and eager to please. It is devoted to its family. Some can be reserved with strangers; others may bark a lot.

Upkeep
Poodles need a lot of interaction with people. They also need mental and physical exercise. The toy poodle's exercise needs can be met with a short walk or even indoor games. This is not a breed that should ever live outside, although it enjoys access to a yard. Its coat should be brushed every day or two. Poodle hair, when shed, does not fall out but becomes caught in the surrounding hair, which can cause matting if not removed. Clipping should be done at least four times a year, with the face and feet clipped monthly. Although most poodles are professionally groomed, owners can learn to groom their own dog.

papillon


Temperament
One of the most obedient and responsive of the toy breeds, the vivacious papillon is also gentle, amiable and playful. It is friendly toward strangers, other dogs and pets and is very good with children. Some can be timid.

Upkeep
The lively papillon thrives on mental stimulation, and it enjoys a daily walk on leash as well as challenging games indoors or out. This is not a breed that can live outdoors. Its coat needs brushing twice weekly.


Havanese


Temperament
This is a busy, curious dog; it is happiest when it is the center of attention. It loves to play and clown and is affectionate with its family, children, strangers, other dogs and pets — basically everyone! The Havanese is willing to please and learn easily, but it tends to be vocal.

Upkeep
Although energetic, the Havanese can have its exercise needs met with a short walk or a good play session. It is not a dog that can live outside. Coat care entails brushing two to four times a week. This is a nonshedding dog, which means that loose hairs are caught in the outer hairs, tending to tangle, unless they are combed out.

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Re: Need help picking a breed like a golden retriever but smaller

How about a beagle? They are really nice, they dont shed and they are quite sturdy.
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How about a beagle? They are really nice, they dont shed and they are quite sturdy.

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But I think they need a bit more just short daily walks? (Like most hunting breeds)

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Beagles are
But I think they need a bit more just short daily walks? (Like most hunting breeds)
Yea, being blood hounds they need a daily run , but they are the best If I didn't have 7 big birds, I would get one
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Also look for Yorkshire terriers, westies and king charles spaniels. All are medium sized dogs and do well without too much exercise like the hounds.
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Get a border collie They are sweet and very smart.I can't keep mine out of the darn pool though

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Get a border collie They are sweet and very smart.I can't keep mine out of the darn pool though
i thought borders need a lot of walks?

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Also look for Yorkshire terriers, westies and king charles spaniels. All are medium sized dogs and do well without too much exercise like the hounds.
no yorkies, i have seem to many in my day in nyc and just cant do it

now i love westies but are they affectionate? dont they need long walks.

are king spaniels bity at all?

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Yea, being blood hounds they need a daily run , but they are the best If I didn't have 7 big birds, I would get one
but i would not be able to give a dog a run really it is a very small space for walks.

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Re: Need help picking a breed like a golden retriever but smaller

Westies are fine with just daily walks, as long as you take them out everyday.

King Charles arent nippy, but the species is sometimes prone to heart diseases (usually around the age of 6-7 years)
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Westies are fine with just daily walks, as long as you take them out everyday.

King Charles arent nippy, but the species is sometimes prone to heart diseases (usually around the age of 6-7 years)
ok that is good to know because i like the spunk of the westies and had ruled them out because i thought they would need really long walks.

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<---- my baby... leo the beagle!

get a puggle

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get a puggle
Or a French Bulldog maybe?

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<---- my baby... leo the beagle!

get a puggle
moon says no pugs or puggles!!

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what? how can moon say no to puggles? just look at those cuties...



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Sheltie. Gorgeous.





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Or a French Bulldog maybe?
OMG they are amazing AND good with kids, other dogs...

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