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... racism from the judges.

I know most of you guys overseas wouldn't have seen it or might not care. But I thought this was really bad. She's an Australian singer with African background.

Why did they keep harping on about being fake. Where do they get this from? None of the other contestants get those fake accusations. There's a white girl left and she doesn't get those accusations.

Here's the big blow up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_k7FTG3OD8

Mark Holden - the judge in the black jacket - was a real idiot. And on the next verdict night after this performance she was booted off. That idiot when asked for his opinion on her being booted off said, "this message is for my driver, I hope he's getting ready for me to leave " or something. Like he had nothing to say to her or encourage her.

Why single this girl out and call her fake when she wasn't and even if she was why only her and NOT others? There were 3 white guys and 1 white girl left.

I was defending the American public against racism when they didn't vote enough for Hudson, LaToya and Fantasia - I mean that was ridiculous, as if the whole country colludes - but this is prejudice from judges' mouths and actions. It's disgusting.

I won't be watching this show with these judges again. There is Marcia Hines but I was shocked at her reaction too, "I have nothing to say"? WTF? What are you getting paid for, call them out on their prejudice!

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Racism???? come on sam, i think the judges are right they see the way she acts backstage. To me she plays the little sweet girl thing to much, I'm sure she is nice but come on.

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Racism???? come on sam, i think the judges are right they see the way she acts backstage. To me she plays the little sweet girl thing to much, I'm sure she is nice but come on.
If they called out everyone on that I'd agree. Everyone's a little fake in the public. As if I would - if I were an entertainer - go out and make myself look obnoxious. I would want to appeal to most people. That's only human nature. That's not even for people in the public like Idol. Why call her out on it and why call ONLY her out on it?

One judge said best, "you two haven't liked her for weeks". They're just finding excuses and trying to make themselves look good. They're being fake. They being real would've been, "we don't like you because you're different and you're too exotic". It's obvious that's how they feel.

BTW to everyone, as if this girl isn't good. She gave the best performance of anyone on the show this year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C0rSNQgLS8

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Re: Racism on Australian Idol

Pffff tarasie NEEDED to go shes was so stupid she didnt even sing good more like yelling and her basic conversation would be

Person " Hey how old are you? "
Tarasai "Thankyou"

and she clearly doesnt listen
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Re: Racism on Australian Idol

there was a singing competition in our country..
it was between this girl and this guy.
this girl has a great big voice..
and this guy sings like a singer in our country...

even though the girl was better
the guy won...
both are from the same race.

the judges have their favourites
everyone has their own fave...

she has nothing special
anyway...
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Pffff tarasie NEEDED to go shes was so stupid she didnt even sing good more like yelling and her basic conversation would be

Person " Hey how old are you? "
Tarasai "Thankyou"

and she clearly doesnt listen
ha ha that made me laugh

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It was sad when she was voted off today. She knew it. When they were doing. "The Idol Who will be leaving us today" She would say under her breath "is me" I felt sorry for her

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Calling this racism is totally unfounded

But the two judges on the left (in the video that is) do seem like true pricks that really dislike her. But that dislike may not be grounded in race.

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Re: Racism on Australian Idol

The racism in such talent shows tends to be more in the public voting than in the judging panels. There is a small but significant element in the voting public, certainly in Britain snd I would imagine in Australia, which votes in a racist manner...

Maybe only 5% of the voters, maybe 10%, but enough to make it harder for non-white contestants. Ive seen it a hundred times on UK shows. So often the judges have to save black contestants again and again.

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The racism in such talent shows tends to be more in the public voting than in the judging panels. There is a small but significant element in the voting public, certainly in Britain snd I would imagine in Australia, which votes in a racist manner...

Maybe only 5% of the voters, maybe 10%, but enough to make it harder for non-white contestants. Ive seen it a hundred times on UK shows. So often the judges have to save black contestants again and again.
I'm less inclined to believe this, maybe because I hope that their voice isn't that strong. Which was my conclusion in the whole American Idol controversy too.

But this double standard from the judges really pissed me off. Why pick on only her when it wasn't even true? They kept picking and picking because they didn't like her and wanted her to leave.

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Calling this racism is totally unfounded

But the two judges on the left (in the video that is) do seem like true pricks that really dislike her. But that dislike may not be grounded in race.
Yes, but you're only seeing one video. We've seen the same thing over like 8 weeks but this just got worse.

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Well, Sam, could be right. I'm not sure. I did notice a few things, though:

1. Her voice leaves alot to be desired
2. After each performance, she doesn't do like the American contestants and smile after it. (Maybe that shows she's not fake...lol)
3. I looked @ Another performance by her, and it's called "If I Were Your Woman." Well, the Aussie Idol people call it, "If I Was your Woman," and they credit Alicia Keys for it.
Wrong. Gladys Knight performed the song first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1STLDrQr94s

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Re: Racism on Australian Idol

It doesn't seem racist to me.

One thing is for sure, though, that girl was an absolute shit singer.

Also, this tendency for all shows to have a "mean judge" is getting really old.


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I'm so sad Tarisai got voted outtttt

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I didn't find it racist. I love her, but I don't think this is racism. What is racism was when Mark called Tarisai "Tiramisu" which I thought was quite like...picking fun on someone who doesn't necessarily have the english grammar/vocabulary to speak up for herself.

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