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Anyone here Jehovah's Witnesses?

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144,000 people will receive immortal life in heaven as co-rulers with Christ, guiding the rest of mankind to perfection during the Millennial Reign. Witnesses believe that during the imminent war of Armageddon, the wicked will be destroyed, and survivors, along with millions of others who will be resurrected, will form a new earthly society ruled by a heavenly government and have the possibility of living forever in an earthly paradise.
Do you guys actually believe this stuff, or is this just someone messing around with Wikipedia?

EDIT: Sorry, that came off a little harsh. No malice intended, just intrigued by these specific beliefs, especially the one about 144,000 people being saved.

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I am not a Jehovah's Witness, but I know a few and they do believe all that. It's unbelievable how much it influences their life despite some of it being, with all due respect, stupid and silly.

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I read a book about JW's . That is really scary. Everything started in New York, of course

BTW They are stalking me, every day asking to take thir books and to come to their convention

I'm watching you.
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I read a book about JW's . That is really scary. Everything started in New York, of course

BTW They are stalking me, every day asking to take thir books and to come to their convention

hehe danilo,,,,KENDALL

is my freind kendall she is a johovas witness,
but her parents dont let her out of her house for tht reason??

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Its just another sily aspect of religion full stop. This just seems stranger cos its not mainstream. read the bible, the tora or the qur'an and you'll see pleanty of things just as ridiculas but because they are the 3 main religions they are accepeted.

Read the God Delusion byt Richard Dawkins. He summerises religion greatly.

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Do you guys actually believe this stuff, or is this just someone messing around with Wikipedia?

EDIT: Sorry, that came off a little harsh. No malice intended, just intrigued by these specific beliefs, especially the one about 144,000 people being saved.
No, I'm not a JW, as a matter of fact, I'm not a Christian. I really don't understand why some people on this board feel the need to dog this particular religion when all religions have things that make absolutely no sense on the surface. To disrespect this particular religion is not only insensitive, but just plain wrong.

It's not what religion a person believes in, but how they represent their religion/beliefs by their actions, not by what their religion says.

BTW, if no malice was intended, you could have deleted the post or at least the part of your post you felt might have been harsh.

Before you speak to me about your religion, first show it to me in how you treat other people; before you tell me how much you love your God, show me in how much you love all His children; before you preach to me of your passion for your faith, teach me about it through your compassion for your neighbors. In the end, I'm not as interested in what you have to tell or sell as in how you choose to live and give.

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Isn't this very similar to what Evangelical Christians (including and supporting George W. Bush) believe?
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I don't think Evangelicals think they will co-rule with Christ, no.

Religious beliefs such as those are the greatest arrogance. It sounds like the Scientologist belief that they'll get to be a god of their own planet. There are far too many self-worshipping people in this world. But it's no surprise they've created religions to support their megalomania.


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I don't think Evangelicals think they will co-rule with Christ, no.

Religious beliefs such as those are the greatest arrogance
. It sounds like the Scientologist belief that they'll get to be a god of their own planet. There are far too many self-worshipping people in this world. But it's no surprise they've created religions to support their megalomania.
Speaking of arrogance, perhaps you should reread your post.

Before you speak to me about your religion, first show it to me in how you treat other people; before you tell me how much you love your God, show me in how much you love all His children; before you preach to me of your passion for your faith, teach me about it through your compassion for your neighbors. In the end, I'm not as interested in what you have to tell or sell as in how you choose to live and give.

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People are annoyed by this particular religion, because Jehovah's Witnesses are generally very annoying. I don't think I've ever said anything about judaism once in my life. Simply because I've never been annoyed about judaism, I never felt it had any negative influence on my life.

Their dedication in trying to convert people is astonishingly stupid when you know only 144 000 people will receive eternal life. The less JW the better your chances are to get to Heaven if you are one, you would think. But the problem is that they don't think.

Jehovah's Witnesses are just brainwashed and unable to think clearly, there is no other explanation. It's true that every religion makes silly claims, but some religions are just more silly than others. For example, the Catholic Church can defend their faith rationaly and the Church has a rich intellectual history; JW, Mormons, Scientologists, etc; can't. If there are any intellectuals belonging to those groups, I'd like to hear them.
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No, I'm not a JW, as a matter of fact, I'm not a Christian. I really don't understand why some people on this board feel the need to dog this particular religion when all religions have things that make absolutely no sense on the surface. To disrespect this particular religion is not only insensitive, but just plain wrong.
1. Why this particular religion... wouldn't that be *any* religion?

2. I'm with you to a point about not criticizing religions (unless you believe this one is to be treated differently for some reason), but I'm not sure where to draw the line. I actually love criticizing Scientology, but is that wrong? Mormons have some "interesting" (to be tactful) beliefs. And there are those Christian religions with very extreme - dare I say xenophobic? - beliefs and world views. Not to mention many others.

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It's not what religion a person believes in, but how they represent their religion/beliefs by their actions, not by what their religion says.
Agree.

And IMO there is no need for anyone to talk about religion while doing anything, just live and act it.

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BTW, if no malice was intended, you could have deleted the post or at least the part of your post you felt might have been harsh.
I think he did.
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Their dedication in trying to convert people is astonishingly stupid when you know only 144 000 people will receive eternal life. The less JW the better your chances are to get to Heaven if you are one, you would think. But the problem is that they don't think.
The 144,00 are pre-chosen to get into heaven. The amount of members has nothing to do with it. The 144,000 can already be in heaven and never even with the Witness church. They will come back during Armageddon during or after the final battle, then God will chose who is to recieve eternal life and who wont.


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Jehovah's Witnesses are just brainwashed and unable to think clearly, there is no other explanation. It's true that every religion makes silly claims, but some religions are just more silly than others. For example, the Catholic Church can defend their faith rationaly and the Church has a rich intellectual history; JW, Mormons, Scientologists, etc; can't. If there are any intellectuals belonging to those groups, I'd like to hear them.

Okay, thats just dumb.

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There was this case in Poland that a kid of JW needed a blood transfusion and as their religion doesn't allow to do that, parents didn't let doctors to do it. Poor kid died because for his/her (I don't remember if it was a girl or a boy) parents silly (sorry, I don't want to offend anybody, but it is silly) religion rule was more important than their kid's life.

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The 144,00 are pre-chosen to get into heaven. The amount of members has nothing to do with it. The 144,000 can already be in heaven and never even with the Witness church. They will come back during Armageddon during or after the final battle, then God will chose who is to recieve eternal life and who wont.

Okay, thats just dumb.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah..._and_salvation

As for 'that's just dumb', if you don't mention what you found dumb and don't elaborate, I can't answer.
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