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Just wondering does French have a noun case system other than nominative? Like how German has 4 cases and English has 2 cases.

As far as I'm aware in my French studies, it doesn't. It seems to be a very analytical language which relies purely on word order.

Also, what's the oblique case?

I find it funny that all these romance languages have lost the noun case systems when Latin had 7 cases!




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I'm pretty sure you're right. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar enough with noun cases to assure you that French only kept one, but if I base myself on what I learned when I had German for a few semesters, French does not have those.

I'll look into it though. Same for the oblique case, I have no idea what it is. YET. I'll be studying Linguistics next year. So I'll check what the oblique case is defined as and I'll try to see if we have it in French. I don't have time now, I'm off to work but I'll definitely check this when I come back home.

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I'm pretty sure you're right. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar enough with noun cases to assure you that French only kept one, but if I base myself on what I learned when I had German for a few semesters, French does not have those.

I'll look into it though. Same for the oblique case, I have no idea what it is. YET. I'll be studying Linguistics next year. So I'll check what the oblique case is defined as and I'll try to see if we have it in French. I don't have time now, I'm off to work but I'll definitely check this when I come back home.

If you have any more questions about French or anything relating to, I'd be happy to at least try and answer I adore la langue française
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Yeah, I didn't think French had any other cases but I would like to make sure so I asked. English is the same but has kept 'genitive' in the form of the famous (or infamous) Saxon genitive.

I don't really understand oblique case. In any case, this hasn't been taught in my french class.

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Excese me, wth is a noun case?
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I think French grammar is difficult enough without the noun cases.

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Excese me, wth is a noun case?
It's like in German how nouns changes their ending according to the function they play in a sentence.




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True. I wasn't wishing for it to have it but rather hoping my suspicions were true.




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What other case does English have?

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What other case does English have?
Genitive - but it's been questioned by linguists.




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Genitive - but it's been questioned by linguists.
I speak English and I dont even know what that is
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Genitive - but it's been questioned by linguists.
You mean "apostrophe + s?"

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Moi aussi! Linguistics is one of the most interesting subjects in the world. I've never formally studied it but because I know a few languages and am studying more, I've become very familiar with it. The best thing is that you cannot never know EVERYTHING.

Yeah, I didn't think French had any other cases but I would like to make sure so I asked. English is the same but has kept 'genitive' in the form of the famous (or infamous) Saxon genitive.

I don't really understand oblique case. In any case, this hasn't been taught in my french class.

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Ok from what I read and understood here, an oblique case is pretty simple. It's apparently any other case OTHER than the nominative. So accusative, dative, genitive, etc. would all be oblique cases.

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You mean "apostrophe + s?"
There's that, but there's also a more complex aspect to it. I found this on Wikipedia, it's pretty interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genitiv...h_-.27s_ending
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxon_genitive
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