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OJ Refused Service at Ruby's Steakhouse, Discrimination Lawsuit Coming

Steakhouse Owner Refuses to Serve O.J. Simpson

Wednesday, May 09, 2007
LOUISVILLE, Ky. — The owner of an upscale steakhouse in Louisville said he asked O.J. Simpson to leave his restaurant the night before the Kentucky Derby because he is sickened by the attention Simpson still attracts.

"I didn't want to serve him because of my convictions of what he's done to those families," Jeff Ruby said in a telephone interview Tuesday. "The way he continues to torture the lives of those families ... with his behavior, attitude and conduct."

Simpson, an NFL Hall of Famer and Heisman Trophy winner, was found innocent in 1995 of killing his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ron Goldman but was found liable in a civil trial that followed.

Ruby — who owns restaurants in Cincinnati, Louisville and Belterra, Ind. — said Simpson, who was in town for the Derby on Saturday, came in with a group of about 12 Friday night and was seated at a table in the back. A customer came up to Ruby and was "giddy" about seeing Simpson, Ruby said.
"I didn't want that experience in my restaurant," Ruby said, later adding that seeing Simpson get so much attention "makes me sick to my stomach."
He said he went to Simpson's table and said, "I'm not serving you." Ruby said when Simpson didn't respond, he repeated himself and left the room.
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Ruby said Simpson soon came up to him and said he understood and would gather the rest of his party to leave.
Simpson's attorney, Yale Galanter, said the incident was about race, and he intended to pursue the matter and possibly go after the restaurant's liquor license.

"He screwed with the wrong guy, he really did," Galanter said by telephone Tuesday night.
Ruby said the incident had to do with Simpson's past.
"It was the first time since 1994 he has ever shown any class," Ruby said. "He showed it that night in the restaurant" by leaving quietly.

Ruby said after Simpson left, people in the restaurant started applauding him. He said he has received about 100 positive e-mails since the incident.
The walls of Ruby's restaurants are decorated with celebrity photos. A photo of Simpson and Ruby used to be on display, but Ruby said he took it down after the killings.
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The guy was probably afraid of OJ having access to his steak knives.
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The guy was probably afraid of OJ having access to his steak knives.

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Private restaurants are allowed to refuse service to anyone they want. It's not illegal.
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not that it'll change the OJ fascination but ...

Attorney: O.J. Won't Sue Kentucky Eatery

May 13, 2007

LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- O.J. Simpson won't take legal action against a Louisville restaurateur who booted from a steakhouse on the eve of the Kentucky Derby after all, Simpson's attorney said Saturday.

http://www.amny.com/entertainment/n...0,6548405.story

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Private restaurants are allowed to refuse service to anyone they want. It's not illegal.
dang, all them folks sitting in at lunch counters all over the USA during the civil rights era ...

btw, depends on what yah call "private" restaurant.

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Private restaurants are allowed to refuse service to anyone they want. It's not illegal.
It probably is illegal to discriminate in that way. In any case, the guy was wrong. He's not judge, jury, and executioner in this country. His job is to feed people, he should stick to it.


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dang, all them folks sitting in at lunch counters all over the USA during the civil rights era ...

btw, depends on what yah call "private" restaurant.
I was thinking the same thing.

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It probably is illegal to discriminate in that way. In any case, the guy was wrong. He's not judge, jury, and executioner in this country. His job is to feed people, he should stick to it.
I agree, although I don't feel an ounce of sympathy for O.J.


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dang, all them folks sitting in at lunch counters all over the USA during the civil rights era ...

btw, depends on what yah call "private" restaurant.
dont be silly, this is not about race.

any store can ask any customer to leave if they are causing a disturbance, or if you just dont like the guy. we had a lady in the shop with a loud rude and nasty dog. do you really believe that just because she was black we cant ask her to leave? well you can believe that if you want. but you would be wrong. we did ask her and her animal to leave and would do it again.

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dont be silly, this is not about race.

any store can ask any customer to leave if they are causing a disturbance, or if you just dont like the guy. we had a lady in the shop with a loud rude and nasty dog. do you really believe that just because she was black we cant ask her to leave? well you can believe that if you want. but you would be wrong. we did ask her and her animal to leave and would do it again.
where did i say it was about race?

its a response to the specific comment, about private restaurants refusing servive to anyone ...

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Why did someone have to bring up the Civil Rights Movement as if I had criticized it?

If you own a private establishment, you are allowed to refuse service to anyone at any time.

I'm not saying that makes it morally right to refuse to serve certain races or religions, but it's not illegal.
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Why did someone have to bring up the Civil Rights Movement as if I had criticized it?

If you own a private establishment, you are allowed to refuse service to anyone at any time.

I'm not saying that makes it morally right to refuse to serve certain races or religions, but it's not illegal.
the bolded part isn't true if by "private establishment" yah mean privately owned but open to the general public. lemme make this clear, i don't think Ruby refusing OJ service is racial discrimination!

but, the Civil Rights Act does provide guidelines for refusing service;

SEC. 201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.


(b) Each of the following establishments which serves the public is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of this title if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action:


(1) any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests, other than an establishment located within a building which contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and which is actually occupied by the proprietor of such establishment as his residence;


(2) any restaurant, cafeteria, lunchroom, lunch counter, soda fountain, or other facility principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises, including, but not limited to, any such facility located on the

premises of any retail establishment; or any gasoline station;



(3) any motion picture house, theater, concert hall, sports arena, stadium or other place of exhibition or entertainment; and


(4) any establishment (A)(i) which is physically located within the premises of any establishment otherwise covered by this subsection, or (ii) within the premises of which is physically located any such covered establishment, and (B) which holds itself out as serving patrons of such covered establishment.


(c) The operations of an establishment affect commerce within the meaning of this title if (1) it is one of the establishments described in paragraph (1) of subsection (b); (2) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (2) of subsection (b), it serves or offers to serve interstate travelers or a substantial portion of the food which it serves, or gasoline or other products which it sells, has moved in commerce; (3) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (3) of subsection (b), it customarily presents films, performances, athletic teams, exhibitions, or other sources of entertainment which move in commerce; and (4) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (4) of subsection (b), it is physically located within the premises of, or there is physically located within its premises, an establishment the operations of which affect commerce within the meaning of this subsection. For purposes of this section, "commerce" means travel, trade, traffic, commerce, transportation, or communication among the several States, or between the District of Columbia and any State, or between any foreign country or any territory or possession and any State or the District of Columbia, or between points in the same State but through any other State or the District of Columbia or a foreign country.


(d) Discrimination or segregation by an establishment is supported by State action within the meaning of this title if such discrimination or segregation (1) is carried on under color of any law, statute, ordinance, or regulation; or (2) is carried on under color of any custom or usage required or enforced by officials of the State or political subdivision thereof; or (3) is required by action of the State or political subdivision thereof.


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Private restaurants are allowed to refuse service to anyone they want. It's not illegal.
It isn't a private resturaunt if the establishment serves the public.

But OJ will have a hard time prooving this one because after he left, his table was given to Michael Jordan and his party.

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Any restaurant is allowed to refuse service to anyone at any time. It is not illegal.

What is illegal is refusing to serve someone based solely on race, sex, color, religion, or national origin. If you own a restaurant, you can refuse to serve anyone as long as you can demonstrate that you didn't refuse to serve them based on their race, sex, color, religion, or national origin.

What the man did to OJ Simpson was perfectly legal and well within his rights as a restaurant owner.
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