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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Apr 24th, 2007, 03:49 PM Thread Starter
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Hillary losing ground to Obama, McCain catching up to Rudy (sort of)

Hillary - still in the lead. But, facing more trouble w/i her party than either
Bill or she expected. She doesn't have the charm or grace Bill has to
smooth things over. She's smart, accomplished, and either loved or hated.
I think she'll still pull it out. But, she'll have to play hardball sooner than
she wanted to I think. That fake southern drawl has to go Hillary....
pandering.

Obama - media darling, Oprah's guy. People like him, even if they don't
know much about him. His comments about Imus and Va. Tech were
ridiculous in my view. But, he is scaring Hillary - only showing how unhappy
people are w/ the party's #1 choice. He should watch out, Clinton's
do not play politics nicely. They'll go after him w/everything as it comes
down to the wire. He's smart, articulate, and charming. He has an easy
grace and friendliness Hillary does not.


Rudy - still #1 guy in the GOP race. Is he the 2008 Howard Dean -
waiting to implode? I don't think so. His stance on abortion will do him in
w/the party faithful. VP - I'd vote for him for that. He's a leader, no
doubt about it. Conservative - no way. Name recognition.

McCain- looks old and tired. He's doing better. Reaching out to the
conservative base he spat upon for 6 years - finally. His war stance
is brave, and I applaud him for being consistent on it. Can he pull it
out? I doubt it. VP - he'll not leave the Senate for a weak VP spot.
Unless he's promised a pseudo-Sec. of State type role w/it.

Romney - surprise guy. Doing better than expected too. Raising
tons of cash. I think he's looking more at 2012. Good looking,
smart, Olympics, Mass. Gov., and a Mormon. That last thing
does him in. America is not open to a Mormon president just yet.


Fred Thompson- he would vault to #1 or #2 if he enters. People are
ready to embrace him. He's a conservative, eloquent, well known, and
popular. His cancer past is an issue. But, when McCain, Kerry,and Rudy
have all had cancer too, and run, and serve in elected office - hard to
keep him out because of it. As well as Spector in the Senate.

Right now, I'd vote for Thompson.


I think the Democrats will hold the House and Senate - the GOP has more
seats to lose in 2008 in the Senate than the Democrats do. A lot of old
geezers in their late 70's, 80's, and near 90.......
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Re: Hillary losing ground to Obama, McCain catching up to Rudy (sort of)

way too early to care about the media's "horse race" reporting.
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The California Primary was moved up several months to assist Hillary by
Fabian Nunez, the CA Assembly speaker, and now, he's been given the
California for Hillary head job.

It was presumed she would be so far ahead, she would kill off the
Democratic competition by then.

As it stands now, she may be in for a fight with Obama in California
afterall - the #1 Dem. primary.

I think she'll take it anyway,but, not as easily as she thought.



McCain formally announced - yawn.

The guy may still pull it out. But, at 70, he looks and sounds old.
He is on the mark about the war, and our military. He has however
found his 6 years of spitting on the right wing of the party, and
stabbing Bush and conservatives in the back as the #1 RINO in
Congress is coming back to bite him.

The GOP base knows what he did w/the Gang of 14 and judges,
stupid Campaign Finance Reform, Amnesty Plan with Ted Kennedy,
Abu Ghraib grandstanding w/Democrats, bashing of Rumsfeld,
bashing of Rice, bashing of Christians, etc.

Which is why Rudy is getting a lot of support from traditional
conservatives - they don't want McCain, under any circumstances.

I personally would vote McCain over Rudy on one issue: abortion.
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Fred Thompson.

Obama.

Richardson.

Tommy Thompson.

Newt Gingrich (yuck).


Joe Biden.

It is disappointing not to see more Hispanic candidates, or
even an Asian candidate, from either party, pop up by now.



Whatever happened to Chuck Hagels big announcement?
The guy figured out he has zero chance. He's the #2
RINO in Congress, and perhaps, worse, as he has stabbed
Bush in the back on tv w/glee on everything. He would not
win one GOP primary, or even make a dent. Huckabee would
probably poll better.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIoa7WU2Dfc

Chuck Hagel is the man
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i thought bill richardison from new mexico was running for P?
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Well, at least money isn't really a factor in presidential races, otherwise candidates would start whoring themselves out to special interests instead of faithfully representing their constituents once they got get elected.

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Did anyone watch the debate last night?

Yawn fest.


Why is anyone other than Hillary and Obama even there?

Biden. No, racist Indian remarks and plagarism are not
selling points for being the Democratic nominee. Being a
windbag in the Senate isn't a qualification.

Richardson - VP candidate. They don't have primaries for that
Bill. Go back to Gallup or Las Cruces.


Actually, they didn't say much. Same old same old....and not in a very
appealing way.

I think these will get better when
(1) they get questions from someone other than a Mainstream Media
Liberal Leaning teleprompter reader.
(2) it narrows even more down to Hillary and Obama.
(3) either of them offers up specifics on what they've
done in their public lives.
(4) picks up a saxphone and plays it on tv, or comes across
as someone you'd like to have a cheeseburger with.
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I'm praying Rudy does NOT become our next Prez

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Christopher Dodd?

Someone tell him no one knows him, likes him, or will vote for him.

He is most famous for being Ted Kennedy's drinking buddy back
in the day.

That's about it.
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Come November '08 it will be John Edwards vs. Mitt Romney. You hear from me first.

Bill Clinton had only 2% of support one and a half years before the 1992 election. He eventually got nominated and won. '08 will be that kind of a year.
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Come November '08 it will be John Edwards vs. Mitt Romney. You hear from me first.

Bill Clinton had only 2% of support one and a half years before the 1992 election. He eventually got nominated and won. '08 will be that kind of a year.

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McCain.
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