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Is it me or has the prejudice already started in the Va. Tech story?

I'm reading stuff about this student and many articles talk about him as if he 'just got off the boat' but hasn't he been in the US since he was 8? I thought I read that. Didn't he graduate from an American high school? So why are they all referring to him as a South Korean born student like South Korea had anything to do with this story? I can already see the racist idiots turning this debate into something about international students and immigration as opposed to discussing the lack of of access to MENTAL HEALTH help. The stigma associated with receiving mental health help and the fact that there is a war on the mentally ill in this country.
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I agree. The impression the media gave me all day was that he was some "resident alien" who'd been here since August 2006. The reality is that he's an immigrant who's been here since he was 8. It's pretty misleading.
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What are you talking about?

Racist?

The early reports yesterday were that he was Chinese or an
illegal alien, or a resident with legal status. They finally got it
right today.


Access to mental health?

It's free to most students on college campuses.

In fact, it's free to anyone in the USA, if you ask for it.
May not be at a fancy office, but, it's available to anyone
who wants it.

They're pointing it out because the university had signs there
was trouble with the young man.

Who said he was mentally ill?
He went to a counselor upon the request of the dept. he was in.
Good. Too bad not more came of it. But, how much can they do
w/o an action anyway.




The news is trying to give information.

The news media is bending over backwards not to do anything
imflammatory about this guy. As always, the criminal seems to
get the white glove treatment in our need to be PC.

His legal status is important.
Citizen or not?
Motivation?

Crimes by Asians, American or foreign born, is rare.
That's a fact. So, it is a major part of the story, as
it should be.

That's not racism, it's news.
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I'm sorry, if a man in France, one of the infamous 'youths' that burn
cars, attack women in buses, rampage on a nightly basis....actually
killed a few people - would they not mention if he was a citizen of
France or a green card citizen of France?


I think they would.

They'd call him a youth with a green card.
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Samsung, don't speak on issues you know nothing about. If you did you would know that most of the government supported mental health facilities have been closed down and turned over to private companies and if you think they offer free counseling I have some swamp land to sell you.
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I'm sorry, if a man in France, one of the infamous 'youths' that burn
cars, attack women in buses, rampage on a nightly basis....actually
killed a few people - would they not mention if he was a citizen of
France or a green card citizen of France?


I think they would.

They'd call him a youth with a green card.
What does France have to do with anything? Please stay on topic or start another one of your ten million threads.
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Samsung, don't speak on issues you know nothing about. If you did you would know that most of the government supported mental health facilities have been closed down and turned over to private companies and if you think they offer free counseling I have some swamp land to sell you.
If she stopped posting on issues she knew nothing about, she'd stop posting, period.

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I agree. The impression the media gave me all day was that he was some "resident alien" who'd been here since August 2006. The reality is that he's an immigrant who's been here since he was 8. It's pretty misleading.
I know, that's what I thought when I was reading several stories. That he was an international student who hadn't even been in the country for a year. Please I moved to NC when I was 8 and if I killed someone that would be like the paper referring to me as a NYC native eventhough I've been in the south my entire life..It's very disingeneous.
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It has already started, unfortunately. And it's no surpise that an idiot like Samsung is already backpeddling from its xenophobic comments in the thread about gun control. I'm not opposed to saying his nationality but it surely has been given too much weight than it deserves. The guy is mentally ill, and that's all it matters. I just find it shocking that people can find something, anything, to lift the blame rather than face the more pressing issues.

The guy has shown psychotic tendencies from before. And likely, not much was done about it.
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It has already started, unfortunately. And it's no surpise that an idiot like Samsung is already backpeddling from its xenophobic comments in the thread about gun control. I'm not opposed to saying his nationality but it surely has been given too much weight than it deserves. The guy is mentally ill, and that's all it matters. I just find it shocking that people can find something, anything, to lift the blame rather than face the more pressing issues.

The guy has shown psychotic tendencies from before. And likely, not much was done about it.
The fact that he doesn't have citizenship (which is probably because his parents never pursued it) has soooo little to do with what happened that if it is mentioned it should be mentioned as generic fact like his height.
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I do have to say that there is a stigma towards mental health help in colleges and universities.

I remember when I lived on campus at St. John's in Queens that there was this girl who if anything might have been a little too ghetto.

Well, her roommates didn't like that so they reported her.

So she was advised to go to get some counseling on campus.
When she got there, someone gave her a sedative and she was taken to NY Hospital Medical Center in Queens in what appeared to be a pysch ward.

She was not allowed back on campus and she was told she can take her finals a week after everyone else.
I really hope she sued the school because her was way out of line.

So yes I can understand why someone wouldn't want to use the mental health on campus and if they do why it would be only a one time deal.

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I agree. The impression the media gave me all day was that he was some "resident alien" who'd been here since August 2006. The reality is that he's an immigrant who's been here since he was 8. It's pretty misleading.
Same thing here.

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I'm sorry, if a man in France, one of the infamous 'youths' that burn
cars, attack women in buses, rampage on a nightly basis....actually
killed a few people - would they not mention if he was a citizen of
France or a green card citizen of France?


I think they would.

They'd call him a youth with a green card.
you have an obsession with France don't ya?

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