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Yes, and it should have been done long time ago! 73 70.19%
No, just keep it that way..... 24 23.08%
I've no opinion on this matter. 4 3.85%
Big Deal! Who cares about a stupid Amendment anyway??? 3 2.88%
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Exclamation Should the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution be changed or removed??

After the incidents in Virginia Tech this week, do you think it's time the US Govt or State change or remove the Second Amendment of the Constitution?

Give your thoughts in here.

By the way, the 2nd Amendment is about the necessity for "a well regulated militia", and prohibits infringement of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms."

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

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Re: Should the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution be changed or removed??

What is it? I'm not familiar with the US Constitution.




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This would be a better post if you could include what the second ammendment( It is the right to bear arms )

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Re: Should the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution be changed or removed??

I would like to see the 2nd amendment repealed or modified. We have got to make it difficult as hell to own a firearm. Also, we need to expensive as hell to own a firearm. The logic that only criminals would have guns if we make firearms illegal is absurd. One just needs to look at countries like New Zealand or the Scandinavian countries to see that countries with super-strict gun laws don't descend into chaos and crime; on the contrary, gun deaths become extremely rare.
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Re: Should the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution be changed or removed??

(yes)I think it should be worked on at least- stricter rules, more registration laws..

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Re: Should the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution be changed or removed??

I will say this again... people had access to guns 50-60 years ago as well and there were not any mass school shootings like there have been in the last 2 decades. Something on a psychological level has changed in today's youth that makes them more apt to do such things.

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Re: Should the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution be changed or removed??

The 2nd Amendment should not be touched.

We should enforce our current laws better.
Make our laws better, each state has the jurisdiction
to do that.

We have thousands of gun laws of every type in the country
already. Let's enforce them better.

However, if this man was intent on causing mayhem,
he would have done it with a gun or without one, with
a legally purchased gun, or an illegally gotten one. He
could have used another weapon or means as well to
cause death to masses if he was bent on doing it.


We should profile our legal immigrants better. Why was
this guy allowed into the nation? Did he ever show any
signs of any problems in the past? Make it harder to get
into this nation, not easier. That's the law we should
be addressing.

If a few people on that campus had the right to carry
a concealed weapon, they would have had a chance to
take out the coward. We cannot rely entirely on our police
forces to protect us - sadly, as we saw yesterday.


Nazi Germany outlawed citizens from owning guns, as did Communist
Russia. As does Washington, D.C., and in large part LA County - does
anyone think those two places are safe and secure for average
citizens? No. Criminals find a way to get guns easily. Law abiding
citizens are forbidden from owning them.
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Re: Should the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution be changed or removed??

I do wish the media would not spend more time on this mouse of a human
being, than it does the victims.

They know going in, they will be given sick cult status.

The poster is right, it's a fairly recent trend, the past few decades.
Guns have been around forever in the USA, but, these types of
crimes have not.

We've desensitized our society from violence, from responsibility, and
from growing up.
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Re: Should the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution be changed or removed??

I am loathe to change the constitution (especially for something as stupid as flag-burning or banning gay marriage).

The question I have always had is how national licensing laws can be construed as limiting the right to own a gun.

Whenever I pose that question, somebody goes into a rant about how then the government would know who has guns and they'd come and take them away (doubtless in black helicopters piloted by members of the Trilateral Commission). Of course, if I wanted to take over, I'd just buy the NRA's mailing list.

We actually have a lot of laws regulating gun ownership. The problem is that they are all different at the federal, state and local level, laxly enforced and too easily circumvented.

A streamlined, centralized registration system and required safety classes would, IMHO, allow Americans to own guns and reduce violence.

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Re: Should the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution be changed or removed??

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I will say this again... people had access to guns 50-60 years ago as well and there were not any mass school shootings like there have been in the last 2 decades. Something on a psychological level has changed in today's youth that makes them more apt to do such things.
Sally, it's true, but guns today can shoot a lot more rapidly. The way guns are sold in this country is so irresponsible, too. It needs to be extremely difficult, time-consuming and expensive to buy a gun, and it's not.
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Re: Should the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution be changed or remov

I made this a post about this in the main thread on the shootings, and I'll just repost it because it's basically what I think about this situation:

One thing that strikes me when these types of tragedies happen in the United States is the fact that countries like Canada have a comparable amount guns but fewer instances of crimes that involve guns. The cycle of violence that is pervasive in this country has a lot to do with people handling guns irresponsibly. Violence is constantly extolled in movies, music, and television. When you have children and young adults being bombarded with images that make it seem as if power and respect come with handling these guns, situations like this will continue to happen. I've heard this before and it fits: guns don't kill people; people kill people. It's more to do with who's handling the guns and because this generation handles them more irresponsibly than past generations, some stricter controls must be made. Fuck the NRA and all those people arguing about their "right." Gun violence ruins entire communities and incidents like this will continue to happen if nothing is done. The 2nd amendment definitely needs to be modified to fit issues we're dealing with today.
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We should profile our legal immigrants better. Why was
this guy allowed into the nation? Did he ever show any
signs of any problems in the past? Make it harder to get
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That would stop the problem how exactly ?

You've already reasoned he would have gotten hold of a gun anyway so he would have killed people in whatever country he was in.

Or is it only American lives that matter ?
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I made this a post about this in the main thread on the shootings, and I'll just repost it because it's basically what I think about this situation:

One thing that strikes me when these types of tragedies happen in the United States is the fact that countries like Canada have a comparable amount guns but fewer instances of crimes that involve guns. The cycle of violence that is pervasive in this country has a lot to do with people handling guns irresponsibly. Violence is constantly extolled in movies, music, and television. When you have children and young adults being bombarded with images that make it seem as if power and respect come with handling these guns, situations like this will continue to happen. I've heard this before and it fits: guns don't kill people; people kill people. It's more to do with who's handling the guns and because this generation handles them more irresponsibly than past generations, some stricter controls must be made. Fuck the NRA and all those people arguing about their "right." Gun violence ruins entire communities and incidents like this will continue to happen if nothing is done. The 2nd amendment definitely needs to be modified to fit issues we're dealing with today.
This argument would have more force if the killer hadn't been a South Korean. He wasn't raised in this country or culture so we can't really blame the US culture or media.
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This argument would have more force if the killer hadn't been a South Korean. He wasn't raised in this country or culture so we can't really blame the US culture or media.
I'm surprised he's Korean anyway. Usually these sort of things and serial killings are done by white males.

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