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Controversy over a Muslim Entering US Congress Continues

Sat, 2006-12-23 02:34 Daya Gamage – US National Correspondent Asian Tribune
Washington, D.C. 23 December (Asiantribune.com): Responding to Congressman Virgil Goode's uncomplimentary statements concerning Muslims and immigration, Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation’s Executive Director sent an English translation of the Quran to the Congressman.


Congressman Goode stated in his letter opposing Congressman-elect from Minnesota at the November 7 general election expressing his desire to take his private oath-taking on Islam’s Holy Book Quran, sent early this month to his constituents in the State of Virginia and released to the nation’s 300 million population to read, that he does, "not subscribe to using the Koran in any way." Goode wrote, "We need to stop illegal immigration totally and reduce legal immigration and end the diversity visas policy that allow many persons from the Middle East to come to this country".
Goode added: "I fear that in the next century we will have many more
Muslims in the United States if we do not adopt the strict immigration policies that I believe are necessary to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America."



In the letter to Representative Goode, Muslim American Society’s Mahdi Bray suggested that, "the Congressman read the chapter from the Quran entitled Hujjrat (49th chapter,verse 13) which states ' O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other).Verily the most honored of you in the sight of God is (he who is) the most righteous of you... '"
He also suggested that Goode refresh himself with the biblical passage that says "love thy neighbor as thyself".
Finally, Bray highly recommended that Representative Goode read the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, specifically the portion pertaining to the free exercise of religion.
Bray further commented that, "the Congressman's statements were
prejudiced and reflected how little he knows about both the immigration policy and Islam."



In an Asian Tribune news analysis carried on 22 December edition titled ‘Election of the first Muslim to US Congress a threat to America’s traditional values, says Republican Congressman’ suggested that the Congressman needs a fresh lesson on foreign affairs, Islamic World, America’s new Global Public Diplomacy and American value system.
"It seems like 1950's style Dixie deja-vu all over again. Many Southern politicians during that era wanted to shut Blacks out of public life and warned against the integration of African-Americans into the social and political fabric of America. 'The race mixers needed to know their place in a white mans country' they would often say. It seems as if Congressman Goode is serving the same bigoted soup, just in a different bowl. The Congressman doesn't need to apologize, what he really needs to do is educate himself about Islam, America's fastest growing religion. Like Congressman-elect Keith Ellison, I am both a Muslim and an African-American."
"Many of our ancestors who were forcefully brought here to build our great nation were Muslims or descendants of Muslims. Muslims have always been in America and we are here to stay. I hope when Congressman-elect Ellison takes his oath, he not only takes it on the Quran, but requests to use the one owned by Thomas Jefferson; one of America's founding fathers, kept at the National Archives. Perhaps such a move would educate the dear Congressman from Virginia concerning the longstanding contributions that Islam has made to American life."


The Freedom Foundation is the public affairs arm of the Muslim American Society (MAS), a national grassroots religious, social, and educational organization. MAS is America's largest grassroots Muslim organization with over 50 chapters nationwide.
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what the fuck does immigration have to do with this?
the man was born in America coverted to Islam while in college if i'm not mistaken ,so wtf is he talking about?
a jewish senator chose the Torah to take the oath and some chose not to use anything for the ceremony,what's the big fucking deal?
that jackass needs to worry about doing the right thing for the people who elected his sorry arse and stfu already

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what the fuck does immigration have to do with this?
the man was born in America coverted to Islam while in college if i'm not mistaken ,so wtf is he talking about?
a jewish senator chose the Torah to take the oath and some chose not to use anything for the ceremony,what's the big fucking deal?
that jackass needs to worry about doing the right thing for the people who elected his sorry arse and stfu already
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The guy still has a Christian name so they should be happy.
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The guy still has a Christian name so they should be happy.
Obviously they're not.
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His words are discriminatory pure and simple. And illegal immigration WTF? The last time I checked most muslims in the US were not their illegally where they? And people need to realize that Islam is not a religion based only on race. People born in America can convert, and many have, what is this fools plan to deal with them since apparently Islam is going to destory American culture? Which by the way, what is American culture?

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Well this belies the post someone made in a recent thread, which suggested that muslims were more integrated in the US than in "Europe"! I can't believe that there are not yet any elected muslim politicians in the US parliamentary system?

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Well this belies the post someone made in a recent thread, which suggested that muslims were more integrated in the US than in "Europe"! I can't believe that there are not yet any elected muslim politicians in the US parliamentary system?
Muslims are not integrated anywhere in muslim nations. It is sad to say this but it is true. Coutries that were once ultra liberal like Netherlands and Denmark have become more conservative because of conflict with Muslim immigrants and beyond (Mohamad cartoons).
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Obviously the only reason why the 'controversy' started was because Goode had no better way to get his name in the newspapers. From obscurity he has now made himself into a household name. Cut throat politics is a Republican specialty and he has made full use of it.

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This is, unfortunately, my Congressman


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Well this belies the post someone made in a recent thread, which suggested that muslims were more integrated in the US than in "Europe"! I can't believe that there are not yet any elected muslim politicians in the US parliamentary system?
Uh, this is about an ignorant racist ,left-wing whack and it has absolutely nothing to do with muslim integration in the US. It just so happen that there are not many muslims interested in politics. Heck, apart from the outspoken Lou Farakhan , you hardly hear a peep from muslims over here. No one is stopping them BTW. Keith Ellison ran a very good campaign in the red state and that's why he was elected.
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Well this belies the post someone made in a recent thread, which suggested that muslims were more integrated in the US than in "Europe"! I can't believe that there are not yet any elected muslim politicians in the US parliamentary system?
It is strange, isn't it. You'd think that in America the Muslim population would feel even more disenchanted, ostracised and extraneous to mainstream American values than in Europe.

But I was watching a BBC report recently, and the BBC are usually, if anything, heavily skewed against the U.S. They were reporting that the Muslim population in America is, curiously, very patriotic. That is, even though, as you pointed out, they are not democratically represented.

And there's another conflicting fact. Apparently, in Egypt and across the Middle East, the most hated country is the United States. That's as you'd expect. But the country in which most of these Muslims, who are supposed to detest the decadence and emancipation of the West, would like to live is the United States. Obviously that may not be true, but I have an acute feeling that it is.
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And there's another conflicting fact. Apparently, in Egypt and across the Middle East, the most hated country is the United States. That's as you'd expect. But the country in which most of these Muslims, who are supposed to detest the decadence and emancipation of the West, would like to live is the United States. Obviously that may not be true, but I have an acute feeling that it is.
You better believe it All you have to do is check immigration blogs or forums to see the number of people from these countries who are either trying to get to the US whether through employment, family sponsorship, asslyum or the DV lottery
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It is strange, isn't it. You'd think that in America the Muslim population would feel even more disenchanted, ostracised and extraneous to mainstream American values than in Europe.

But I was watching a BBC report recently, and the BBC are usually, if anything, heavily skewed against the U.S. They were reporting that the Muslim population in America is, curiously, very patriotic. That is, even though, as you pointed out, they are not democratically represented.

And there's another conflicting fact. Apparently, in Egypt and across the Middle East, the most hated country is the United States. That's as you'd expect. But the country in which most of these Muslims, who are supposed to detest the decadence and emancipation of the West, would like to live is the United States. Obviously that may not be true, but I have an acute feeling that it is.
True. Politics is strange. It can be so immoral and ironic at times.
This hateful politician hopefully won’t have a very long political life, if his party is wise.

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You better believe it All you have to do is check immigration blogs or forums to see the number of people from these countries who are either trying to get to the US whether through employment, family sponsorship, asslyum or the DV lottery
Yeah but that's the same with Western Europe. There are areas of British cities with whole communities who seem very apart from the rest of Britain.
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