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UK Teenagers Have Had Two or More Abortions

More than 100 teenagers a month have second abortions, according to new figures.

Statistics published on the Department of Health website showed that, in 2005, 1,316 girls under the age of 18 had a second abortion while 90 were on their third.

Among the 18 to 24-year-old group, 16,474 had a second abortion while 3,060 were on their third.

Among the over 30s, 482 women had their fifth abortion in 2005, 92 were on their sixth and 29 were admitted for their seventh abortion.

Figures for all age groups showed an increase on the previous year.

A Department of Health spokesman said: "Government is determined to reduce the demand for abortions by improving access to contraception.

"We are working hard to raise awareness of the importance of open access to services that offer the full range of contraceptive methods.

"We have committed £40 million to PCT (primary care trust) baseline funding to improve this access.

"However, it is for primary care trusts to determine what level of contraception service they provide and whom they commission the services from, in order to meet the needs of their local population.

"The Government's Teenage Pregnancy Strategy is also working. Between 1998 and 2004 (the latest year for which data are available) the under-18 conception rate has fallen by 11.1 per cent and the under-16 rate by 15.2 per cent.

"Both rates are now at their lowest levels for 20 years."

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That's disgusting.

I think access to abortion is very important but this underlines a major deficit in education and accesibility to birth control!

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I think there should be more abortions. Unfortunately pushchair manufacturers are teaming up with Catholic groups to ensure that Britain's pavements will never be rid of the ubiquitous 18 y.o. chav mum. To counter this I propose a Mobile Youth Abortion Response Squad Elite (M.Y.A.R.S.E.) who will tour the country eliminating these scum before birth, and even in the first few years of life in extreme cases.
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yeah that would be shocking, if it were true, but since you have taken a page from samsung posting things that are lies copied from another message board and posting it as fact. now complete with a lack of source or a complete bs source.


but i do wonder why people would believe something posted without a source for an unreliable poster on message board. THATS whats more shocking and disgusted.
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Anyone can make a mistake. But after one mistake, wouldn't you be vigilant about the pill and condoms and stuff?

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yeah that would be shocking, if it were true, but since you have taken a page from samsung posting things that are lies copied from another message board and posting it as fact. now complete with a lack of source or a complete bs source.


but i do wonder why people would believe something posted without a source for an unreliable poster on message board. THATS whats more shocking and disgusted.
http://www.dh.gov.uk/assetRoot/04/14/14/73/04141473.pdf

I went on the government Department of Health website and checked, and it is in fact correct.

1406 under 18s in 2005 had a second or third abortion.
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http://www.dh.gov.uk/assetRoot/04/14/14/73/04141473.pdf

I went on the government Department of Health website and checked, and it is in fact correct.

1406 under 18s in 2005 had a second or third abortion.
interesting mostly because the source you posted says that only 90 under age girls had a second abortion and NONE had a third. and whats more these numbers are down since 2003.

now i want to know you can post something that says 40 under age teens had a second abortion and then say that your very own source says 1400???

thats what i want to know?

actually i think i know. its all about the WORDING.

for examples. it says.... number of previous terminations

`2005 Age
Number of previous terminations under 18 -18 to 24- 25 to 30- over 30 Total
0 16,558 53,996 26,771 28,903 126,228
1 1,316 16,474 12,924 14,709 45,423
2 90 3,060 3,461 4,148 10,759
3 .. .. 870 1,128 2,517
4 .. .. 349 482 1,233
5 .. .. 56 92 162
6 .. .. .. 29 50
7 or more .. .. .. 24 44
Total 18,023 74,418 44,460 49,515 186,416


so you could say 90 girls had 2 prior abortions. or you could say 90 girls had 2 prior abortions and a planing a third??

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interesting mostly because the source you posted says that only 90 under age girls had a second abortion and NONE had a third. and whats more these numbers are down since 2003.

now i want to know you can post something that says 40 under age teens had a second abortion and then say that your very own source says 1400???

thats what i want to know?
No the field is 'previous abortions', not 'number of abortions'

They measured girls having abortions and 1400 had had a previous one
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No the field is 'previous abortions', not 'number of abortions'

They measured girls having abortions and 1400 had had a previous one
wait how was this done? was this a study over the course of say 5 years? or did they just ask people how many abortions have the had in the past and asked them not to count the one they were planning (thinking about) but have not yet had?
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wait how was this done? was this a study over the course of say 5 years? or did they just ask people how many abortions have the had in the past and asked them not to count the one they were planning (thinking about) but have not yet had?
Wiggly I don't think it is a very strong line of argument to ask a question clearly nobody here knows the answer to.

Furthermore it is a study by the government, it's not going to be set out to disparage the NHS.

Finally, Britain has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in the world, there is a serious problem with sexually transmitted diseases (1 in 14 teens have gonorrhea) and it shouldn't come as a suprise that there are also a large number of abortions.
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If I'm going to guess, they used records of the NHS and private clinics and logged those who had had multiple abortions.
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Wiggly I don't think it is a very strong line of argument to ask a question clearly nobody here knows the answer to.

Furthermore it is a study by the government, it's not going to be set out to disparage the NHS.

Finally, Britain has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in the world, there is a serious problem with sexually transmitted diseases (1 in 14 teens have gonorrhea) and it shouldn't come as a suprise that there are also a large number of abortions.
well first i wasnt making a line of argument. i was asking the question that everyone does (or at the very least should) when they see any study or survey. "how was it done" the other "who paid for it" has already been answered. if its seem as hostility to ask how it was done, than its not scientific or valid because any scientific or valid study has to be able to answer this question, usually even before releasing the results.


of course how it was done matters here more than in most cases for the most ovious reason: plans change. if you ask someone about what they have done in the past that clearly gives a better look at what was done. but without a doubt the best way is to track people over the course of time and right down what they do. that record is by far the best record, than either memory or plans.
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I'm not surprised we have so many teenage *chav* mums here in the UK. Sex education (at least where I came from) was SHIT SHIT SHIT.

Years ago they used to, like, put condoms on bananas, and stuff. That was all scrapped because of expenses, which is bullshit.

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Yeah, the first time I had sex, I put my condom on a cucumber, just like they showed in biology, then fucked the girl, and nine months later she shows up at my door with a pair of ugly little carpet munchers, asking me for child support. On the plus side, that was one exceptionally sperm-free cucumber I ate that summer.
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