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Vying for Top 10 in Academic Rank

December 20, 2006
Vying for Top 10 in Academic Rank

GAINESVILLE, Fla. If there is any goal that the University of Florida has pursued as fervently as a national football championship for the Gators, it is a place among the nations highest-ranked public universities.
We need a top-10 university, so our kids can get the same education they would get at Harvard or Yale, said J. Bernard Machen, the university president.

To upgrade the university, Dr. Machen is seeking a $1,000 tuition surcharge that would be used mostly to hire more professors and lower the student-faculty ratio, not coincidentally one of the factors in the much-watched college rankings published annually by U.S. News & World Report. This year, that list ranked Florida 13th among public universities in the United States.

Like Florida, more leading public universities are striving for national status and drawing increasingly impressive and increasingly affluent students, sometimes using financial aid to lure them. In the process, critics say, many are losing force as engines of social mobility, shortchanging low-income and minority students, who are seriously underrepresented on their campuses.

Public universities were created to make excellence available to all qualified students, said Kati Haycock, director of the Education Trust, an advocacy group, but that commitment appears to have diminished over time, as they choose to use their resources to try to push up their rankings. Its all about reputation, selectivity and ranking, instead of about the mission of finding and educating future leaders from their state.

While a handful of public universities have long stood among the nations top institutions the University of California, Berkeley, and the University of Michigan among them many have only recently joined their ranks.
At some of the best public universities, selectivity is up: at the University of Florida, the average student high school grade point average now exceeds 4.0, a feat achievable only with high grades in honors or Advanced Placement classes. And student interest in these institutions is soaring. At the University of Vermont, where three quarters of the freshmen come from other states, applications have more than doubled since 2001.

The demands on such universities are growing, too, particularly with many states questioning their spending on higher education. Increasingly, these colleges are expected to bolster their states economies by attracting research grants and jobs. To do that, they say, they must compete with elite private universities.

So the universities face a tough balancing act: should they push for higher status and higher tuition revenue by accepting more top-achieving, out-of-state students, or should they worry about broadening access for low-income, in-state students? Is their primary goal to serve the people of their state or to compete nationally with private research universities? Can they leave the less prestigious state colleges to serve the bulk of in-state students?

It is increasingly challenging to manage all of those inherently conflicting goals, said Mark A. Emmert, president of the University of Washington, adding that global competitiveness required world-class scholarship: When we think about our peers now, we dont just think about the publics, we throw in Stanford and the Ivies.

In some ways, the University of Washington outdoes its peers. Dr. Emmert says proudly that his university is second only to Harvard in research financing from the National Institutes of Health.

In certain respects, flagship public universities have become more like private institutions. Public universities are still far less expensive, but with their tuition rising rapidly, enrolling low-income students has become as much an issue for them as it is for private universities.

From 1995 to 2003, flagship and leading public research universities quadrupled their aid to students from families with incomes over $100,000, while aid to students from the poorest families declined, according to the Education Trust. The best public universities, the group said, have come to resemble gated communities of higher education.

And their aid policies are paramount, because aid given by the universities dwarfs what students get from the federal government.

The rise in the quality of public flagships across the country is in principle a good thing, said William E. Kirwan, chancellor of the University System of Maryland. Whats begun to cross the line, though, is when in the pursuit of excellence, our financial aid gets distorted in a way that high-achieving, low-income students who are qualified to go to our best public institutions cant.

In an implicit recognition of this distortion, several public universities have started programs to help low-income students.

The Carolina Covenant at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill was the first such program. Started in 2004, it guaranteed low-income students enough aid to graduate debt-free.

This year about 8 percent of the freshman class qualified, in the process helping diversify the student body, which for the first time is less than 70 percent white.

The University of Virginia followed with a similar program. And just this fall, the University of Washington did as well.

The University of Florida, as much as any, is grappling with these issues.
Florida wants a top-10 university because its clear that our economic development is increasingly tied to research, said Dr. Machen, the president. The states fired up to invest in this university when it sees our projects with the Burnham Institute for Medical Research and Scripps Research Institute.

The universitys financial situation is unique: it has the lowest tuition of the flagships, $3,206 a year. In addition, the state pays 75 percent to 100 percent of tuition and fees for students with high grades and test scores, including more than 90 percent of freshmen.

Still, the students at the sprawling Gainesville campus, with its historic buildings, lawns and lush vegetation, are so affluent that those who must work to help support themselves are sometimes put off by the fancy cars, the stylish clothes and what they see as a sense of entitlement around them.

The way they dress, what they talk about, the I drive this, I drive that, it gets annoying, said Angela Momprevil, a sophomore whose parents, Haitian immigrant business owners, did not attend college.

Dr. Machen said that when he became president of the university in 2004, he was troubled to discover that the average students family income was about $100,000.

That bothered me because public education is supposed to be a ladder to success, Dr. Machen said. We dont want to be an elitist institution. We want to be a mirror of society.

Ever since, he said, he has struggled to balance the quest for higher rankings with the push to serve minority and low-income students. Two of the universitys efforts, the tuition surcharge and a new program for low-income students, could almost stand as the yin and yang of his agenda.

Dr. Machen said the university needed the surcharge to supplement its inexpensive tuition and bring in 200 new faculty members.

How can I tell parents that the education their children can get here is on a par with Michigan or North Carolina, he said, when my student-teacher ratio is 21 or 22 to 1, and Michigans is 15 to 1, Chapel Hills 14 to 1?
The surcharge proposal, for next years new students, has caused little upset on campus and was endorsed by the Student Senate. But some students had concerns.

I worry that there will be highly qualified students who wont be able to pay an extra $1,000, said Sal Picataggio, a junior. Its a fine line. I want it to be prestigious, to be top 10, but I also want it to be more accessible.
Even as the cost of education at the University of Florida goes up, Dr. Machen is working to bring in more low-income students.
We found a significant number of accepted students, from the families of the working poor, who didnt come because they didnt have the money to pay the costs, he said. Loans werent attractive to them, and we wanted them here.

So this fall, the university started a program covering the full cost of college, living expenses included, for students from families with incomes under $40,000, if neither parent went to college. The program also attracted more minority students, helping to raise the proportion of blacks among this years freshmen to more than 13 percent, from about 10 percent in the two previous years.

It turns out that using first generation in the family to go to college is a pretty good surrogate for diversity, Dr. Machen said.

The university is also cutting back merit aid. For years, Gainesville paid dearly to attract National Merit scholars, the students who scored highest on the Preliminary SAT exams. Scholars from out of state pay no tuition at the University of Florida and receive an additional $38,000 over four years.
As a result, the school has drawn hundreds of merit scholars, sometimes nearly as many as Harvard. But next fall, the amount of those awards will be cut to $17,000 for out-of-staters.

It gave us a kind of bragging rights, Dr. Machen said, but it didnt help in the world of our peers, because they knew we were buying them.
This is higher-education code: peer ratings are the largest component of the U.S. News & World Report rankings, so anything that does not impress other educators is not likely to help the rankings.

Manny A. Fernandez, chairman of the board at the University of Florida, talks as frankly as Dr. Machen about rankings.

I want to be on the cocktail-party list of schools that people talk about, because that influences the decisions of great students and great faculty, Mr. Fernandez said. I dont apologize for trying to get the rankings up, because rankings are a catalyst for changes that improve the school.
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From 1995 to 2003, flagship and leading public research universities quadrupled their aid to students from families with incomes over $100,000, while aid to students from the poorest families declined, according to the Education Trust. The best public universities, the group said, have come to resemble “gated communities of higher education.”
This is really crazy. How could people start wharping financial aid and it's true purpose.

btw, I bet that program at UNC probably has something to do with John Edwards and that 'Poverty center' he runs.
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It's sad. I do volunteer admissions work for my old school, and more and more I see very talented kids going elsewhere due solely to financial concerns. More and more, it seem like the top private schools are reverting to the privileged country club mind set that dominated before World War II, and many state universities are following suite.

Tuitions are wildly out of hand, too. I'm sure part of the reason so many families making $100,000 a year or more are getting financial aid is because they need it. Even two kids at non "flagship" state schools can run you $20-30k a year these days. For college admissions, too, that's where your "sweet spot" is, and that means less for kids at the lower end of the scale. It's not fair, but I really don't know what can be done in the short run.

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College is a business and it's sad. I went to a private university and my tuition was over 30,000+ a year.

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Yeah but we are talking about public universities whose main goal is suppose to be providing an affordable education for it's citizens. Financial Aid is for those whose parents can't pay. Having too many bills, or having a mortgage that's too big, or old college loans you haven't paid, basically keeping up with the jones' is not the same as not being able to afford a school. Yes most of us Americans are hocked to our eyeballs but that shouldn't be a determining factor in financial aid. Let's just say a family making 100,000 *should* be more likely to pay the tuition than a family that makes $40,000.

My first year in school, my sister was also in college and that was the only year I got enough financial aid where I could afford a meal plan and pay for all my books and have a little money to last me through the semester ( I do mean a little like $200-$300)

That next year my sister graduated and my aid was cut back......I couldn't afford a meal plan and after paying for my books I was left with $200-$300 and I had work study...I think I worked 10-12 hrs per week.

This is what I got and my mother made less than $20,000 and that was our entire income. There was no money coming from home to help out or to make it to the end of the semester. Someone who comes from a family making over $100,000 would certainly need far less outside help than someone coming from a poorer family?

One thing that NC is lucky with is that the government has pretty strict rules about tuition. If one school charges it the other has to as well. How schools get around that is the student fees but people keep a close watch on that too. They also have a cap on the number of out of state/country students the universities can accept. I know that at one point I heard that the Vet School at NC State only accepted two out of state students. I know Chapel Hill has been fighting this because they have so many people who want to get in all around the country but I don't think they will get their way.
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