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post #1 of 63 (permalink) Old Dec 18th, 2006, 04:24 PM Thread Starter
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Hip Hop is An Art?

I think,it's like Poetry....




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Re: Hip Hop is An Art?

Shouldn't the question be . Do you agree?

Anyway IMO. No its not an art form, most of the time its just gibberish over a massive base beat and a lot of the time with some sample from another song at its heart.

The charts these days are too saturated with ribish hip hop and r'n'b. Mainy in the USA. In the UK indie/band music has taken over again. Along with singer/songwriters.

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Shouldn't the question be . Do you agree?

Anyway IMO. No its not an art form, most of the time its just gibberish over a massive base beat and a lot of the time with some sample from another song at its heart.

The charts these days are too saturated with ribish hip hop and r'n'b. Mainy in the USA. In the UK indie/band music has taken over again. Along with singer/songwriters.
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Re: Hip Hop is An Art?

yes, it is
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Like any kind of creation, it's art if you like it, it's not if you don't.

You can shit on a canvas and call it art if someone likes your work and is willing to expose it.
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Yes, it's an art

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Shouldn't the question be . Do you agree?

Anyway IMO. No its not an art form, most of the time its just gibberish over a massive base beat and a lot of the time with some sample from another song at its heart.

The charts these days are too saturated with ribish hip hop and r'n'b. Mainy in the USA. In the UK indie/band music has taken over again. Along with singer/songwriters.
Mostly composed of anorexic white boys who have side swept bangs and haven't showered in a week whining about having their hearts broken, meanwhile they have the groupie sluts waiting for them backstage so they can continue their spread of fucking STDs and the shooting of more heroin up into their arms and between their toes.

Now that's art, huh?


Of course it's an art and anyone who says it isn't doesn't know real hip hop. Which shows your ignorance - you're speaking on a subject which you don't know at all.


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Shouldn't the question be . Do you agree?

Anyway IMO. No its not an art form, most of the time its just gibberish over a massive base beat and a lot of the time with some sample from another song at its heart.

The charts these days are too saturated with ribish hip hop and r'n'b. Mainy in the USA. In the UK indie/band music has taken over again. Along with singer/songwriters.
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Depends on who's rapping

IMO these guys turn hip hop into an art form

1. Common

2. Mos Def

3. Talib Kweli

4. Nas

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Ahhh but is art hip-hop?

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Mostly composed of anorexic white boys who have side swept bangs and haven't showered in a week whining about having their hearts broken, meanwhile they have the groupie sluts waiting for them backstage so they can continue their spread of fucking STDs and the shooting of more heroin up into their arms and between their toes.

Now that's art, huh?


Of course it's an art and anyone who says it isn't doesn't know real hip hop. Which shows your ignorance - you're speaking on a subject which you don't know at all.
When did i say anything about the lifestlye that went with these forms of 'art' as you put it?

If you want to start with that shall i bring up the gang culture and the gun culture that has come from hip hip? No cos thats not the point of the discussion.

When you learn to have a decent debate about what is being discussed come back.

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Re: Hip Hop is An Art?

It's curious how the opinions can be biased.


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Anyway IMO. No its not an art form, most of the time its just gibberish over a massive base beat and a lot of the time with some sample from another song at its heart.

The charts these days are too saturated with ribish hip hop and r'n'b. Mainy in the USA. In the UK indie/band music has taken over again. Along with singer/songwriters.
That's plenty of cliché here.

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Of course hip-hop is art. All music is art, regardless of if someone likes it or not.
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When did i say anything about the lifestlye that went with these forms of 'art' as you put it?

If you want to start with that shall i bring up the gang culture and the gun culture that has come from hip hip? No cos thats not the point of the discussion.

When you learn to have a decent debate about what is being discussed come back.
please bring up the gun the culture that has come from hip hop? Please? I'd be fascinated to learn about how hip hop started that culture.

I mean guns clearly weren't apart of the American culture before hip hop took over right? I mean when I was driving to work and say all those good old boys standing in the woods with their guns, I had no idea they were inspired from the hip hop culture.

Holly's point is you wouldn't know hip hop culture if it came up and bit you on the ass. FYI, hop hop does not equal rap. Rap is a part of the hip hop culture but it is not the only part. Also, FYI, MTV/Mainstream does not represent all of hip hop/rap.

In other words, talk about music you know next time because it's quite evident you are not a part of the culture.

and no one is telling you to like it but there is a thing called respect for artists maybe you should get some.

I should go around bashing that indie/rock whinny music as it makes me want to puke most of the time....I mean if I don't like it therefore it's not art right.
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Re: Hip Hop is An Art?

Like any other form of music, it depends on the musician.

Common and Missy Elliot are artists. Ja Rule and Ludacris are not.
Regina Spektor and Allison Goldfrapp are artists. Britney Spears and Kelly Clarkson are not.

There's no definite line between what's art and what's a three-and-a-half minute commercial, but I think it entails writing intelligent lyrics, making an attempt to be original, and, of course, writing your own music.

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