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Teacher calls Muslim student 'terrorist'

JENNIFER MACEY:

Since last year's Cronulla riots, the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination board has been inundated by calls from Muslim Australians.

One of those calls came from a grade 11 student at Blakehurst High School in Sydney's south-east, who lodged a complaint against his legal studies teacher for calling him a terrorist.

Wagih Zac Fares says he's still hurt by the comment made in front of his classmates.

WAGIH ZAC FARES: I put my bag on the table, looking for a chair to sit at. I asked the girl next to that chair if the chair was free and her reply was yes. I sat down next to her, and on that table was her magazine, and I began flicking through it.

Mr Seymour then approached me, and said give me the magazine, in that aggressive tone right from the beginning. I said sir, please can I just put the magazine back in her bag?

He said no, you've come into my classroom, you've moved desks, and that's when he outburst (sic), said no, I don't want to negotiate with a terrorist.

When he said that it hit me, and I was shocked, I was embarrassed, I was just humiliated. And everyone stopped talking, all conversations dropped and looked at me.

Emotions were building up. That's when I banged the table and said sir, that's wrong. And unable to control my emotions, I began screaming out, I'm not a terrorist. How can you call me a terrorist?

I ran out of the classroom, punching walls, screaming I'm not a terrorist, how can you call me a terrorist?

JENNIFER MACEY:

Wagih Fares says he ran from the classroom and was followed by his teacher, who apologised. When he returned to the school he picked up tables and threw them.

He says he hasn't been able to return to his legal studies class and now wants the teacher transferred to another school.

WAGIH FARES: I cannot continue my education and to achieve my personal goals and go on to uni with this teacher there now.

The Department did take a while to come out with a result, and the result was that I had to either move schools, drop the subject, or do in-school tutoring, where I have to do... make the decisions, where I've done nothing wrong. It should be the teacher that must make the decision.

JENNIFER MACEY:

The State's Education Department has investigated the incident and disciplined the teacher. The investigation found that the teacher hadn't intended to embarrass or humiliate the student.

The Department's Regional Director Dr Phil Lambert says the teacher is truly sorry.
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A year on from the Cronulla riots, it's words, not actions, that are causing pain.

Blakehurst High student Wagih Fares was called a terrorist by his legal studies teacher.

The conflict today is whether an apology and counselling is punishment enough.

I met Wagih, his parents and brothers and sisters at their Brighton Le Sands home this morning. They offered coffee to reporters and unwavering support for Wagih's stand.

"It's painful," Wagih said. "It's more than words."

There's no doubt that for this Lebanese Muslim family the teacher's words caused deep wounds.

"We are Australians. My children were born in Australia," Wagih's mother said.

Wagih claims that in June he was told in a "loud and very aggressive voice" by legal studies teacher, Michael Seymour, to hand over a magazine.

When he refused the teacher responded: "I don't want to negotiate with a terrorist."

The Department of Education's regional director of schools Phil Lambert said today the teacher had admitted his mistake and apologised.

"In the heat of the moment he said those words and he regrets having said them."
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"He was there to have a go at me," replied Wagih. "I don't know why. Maybe because I'm Lebanese."

The Fares family want the teacher fired or transferred so that Wagih can return to his legal studies class. The Education Department believes the teacher has learned his lesson the hard way.

An Anti Discrimination Board investigation will make the final call on whether the teachers remorseful actions are punishment enough for his painful words.

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"I've done nothing wrong and to be called that word it's painful. It is painful, that's a good word to describe it, disgusted, it's still hitting me now, it still gets me now," Wagih said on Channel 10.

I've learned that our background and circumstances may have influenced who we are, but we are responsible for who we become.

I've learned that we are responsible for what we do, no matter how we feel.

I've learned that either you control your attitude or it controls you.

I've learned that sometimes when I'm angry I have the right to be angry, but that doesn't give me the right to be cruel.

I've learned that maturity has more to do with what types of experiences you've had and what you've learned from them, and less to do with how many years you have lived.

I've learned that you shouldn't be so eager to find out a secret. It could change your life forever.
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The teacher apologized...let's move on.

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The teacher apologized...let's move on.
Easy for you to say since you'll never know what that feels like or what it has done to this child.
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Well sometimes things happen and you can't turn it back, but mostly it's just a stupid first reaction or even a misplaced joke. I guess you have to get over it and move on if someone apologized like the teacher did here. Maybe it sounds rude, but it's hard world if you take every single word as discrimination in the hardest form.
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The teacher apologized...let's move on.
Typical retardation. The fact that you chose to dismiss so fast such a disgusting case of discrimination speaks volume about what you believe yourself.

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Everybody knows what it feels like to have some asshole teacher say something hurtful, unfair, etc. The teacher was wrong, but this kid is either intentionally blowing the incident way out of proportion or he's just nuts. Screeming, running, punching walls, throwing desks and now he can't return to the class? How about growing a pair of balls? How about growing up? Life isn't fair, you run into some jerks, life goes on.

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Everybody knows what it feels like to have some asshole teacher say something hurtful, unfair, etc.
hmm, no. This isn't just a case of a teacher hurting a kid's feelings, and not everyone is subject to racial or cultural discrimination like that. There are few things that are less appalling than telling a kid "I don't negotiate with terrorists." I guess it's easy to talk out of your ass when you're not subject to prejudice.
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Everybody knows what it feels like to have some asshole teacher say something hurtful, unfair, etc. The teacher was wrong, but this kid is either intentionally blowing the incident way out of proportion or he's just nuts. Screeming, running, punching walls, throwing desks and now he can't return to the class? How about growing a pair of balls? How about growing up? Life isn't fair, you run into some jerks, life goes on.
that's partly true, but i disagree. people who say things like this should be disciplined. teachers should not be allowed to discrimanate against their students because of their ethnicity and similar. schools are institutions and discrimination in any shape or form should not be tolerated there.
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hmm, no. This isn't just a case of a teacher hurting a kid's feelings, and not everyone is subject to racial or cultural discrimination like that. There are few things that are less appalling than telling a kid "I don't negotiate with terrorists." I guess it's easy to talk out of your ass when you're not subject to prejudice.
I guess it's easy to be obnoxious and disrespectful when hiding behind a computer screen. Cowardy but easy.

You don't know a goddamn thing about me or what I have and have not experienced.

If I were the school administrator, I'd discipline the teacher. Period. But you know what? This seventeen year-old can spend the rest of his life crying and punching walls, running and hiding everytime somebody hurts his feelings or he can become a man. It's his choice. Either way, in a world that is becoming more and more populated by overgrown babies, men and women will prevail.

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that's partly true, but i disagree. people who say things like this should be disciplined. teachers should not be allowed to discrimanate against their students because of their ethnicity and similar. schools are institutions and discrimination in any shape or form should not be tolerated there.
You are absolutely correct; I agree with you 100% The teacher should be held accountable; his behavior was inexcusable.

I wouldn't tolerate punching walls, throwing desks and refusing to attend class either.

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I guess it's easy to be obnoxious and disrespectful when hiding behind a computer screen. Cowardy but easy.

You don't know a goddamn thing about me or what I have and have not experienced.

If I were the school administrator, I'd discipline the teacher. Period. But you know what? This seventeen year-old can spend the rest of his life crying and punching walls, running and hiding everytime somebody hurts his feelings or he can become a man. It's his choice. Either way, in a world that is becoming more and more populated by overgrown babies, men and women will prevail.
Well the irony in this post is too much, because you don't know what this student has experienced in his life either to judge him like that; not to mention this isn't really the issue here, how the student reacted. Is it too hard to imagine why anyone would get in an emotional outburst because of racial/cultural discrimination? You don't know the pressue that this student is under. And this is probably as disgusting as it can get; a teacher calling a student a terrorist out of the blue.

And for the record, what I said was a general statement.
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The teacher apologized...let's move on.
i dont think a simple apology can excuse such a disgusting act. although i wish everything could be ok just by saying sorry naive to think so though
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You are absolutely correct; I agree with you 100% The teacher should be held accountable; his behavior was inexcusable.

I wouldn't tolerate punching walls, throwing desks and refusing to attend class either.

to be honest, i dont think i would return to that class after the blatent discrimination. i would stick to my morals
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to be honest, i dont think i would return to that class after the blatent discrimination. i would stick to my morals
I agree. I wouldn't return either until some sort of disciplinary action is done to the teacher.
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