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I need the expert assistance of ANYONE familiar with SUDOKU games

Okay, here's the deal...
I'm looking to purchase a handheld, backlit, portable, SUDOKU game, and I'm DESPERATE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I found the perfect unit at Barnes and Noble, but when I returned to purchase it... ... it was gone!

I own a few Sudoku books, a PC Sudoku game, have a few Sudoku links under my 'FAVORITES', and the latest was a purchase wifie made for me 4 days ago called 'THE MAMMOTH BOOK OF SUDOKU'. It has 400 new puzzles, but so far is too easy for me.

Anyway, I need a handheld unit that will allow me to play in the dark and during long car rides.
As you can tell, I'm a hardcore Sudoku fiend now.

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I am having the same problem! I've browsed through all the books at B&N and Borders and they are all too easy for me. I DLed a Sudoku game for my celly, but I have already unlocked the hardest level and now I am also bored of it.

Sorry I can't be of any help. Maybe someone else will help us.


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i think they have one for nintendo ds...

wait let me check..

http://www.gamefaqs.com/search/index...oku&platform=0

yep, they have a few. =)


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so what is with this sudoku craze? I dont want to sound like a brat, but I've only completed one of them, and it was supposedly a hard one (i forgot the rating). It was ok and kind of fun but i dont know if I would care to do them over and over again. They're a simple version of those logic puzzles you find in those game&puzzle brain logic crap crossword-like magazines in the magazine sections of grocery / convenience / gas stores. now some of THOSE are hard.

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Okay, here's the deal...
I'm looking to purchase a handheld, backlit, portable, SUDOKU game, and I'm DESPERATE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I found the perfect unit at Barnes and Noble, but when I returned to purchase it... ... it was gone!

I own a few Sudoku books, a PC Sudoku game, have a few Sudoku links under my 'FAVORITES', and the latest was a purchase wifie made for me 4 days ago called 'THE MAMMOTH BOOK OF SUDOKU'. It has 400 new puzzles, but so far is too easy for me.

Anyway, I need a handheld unit that will allow me to play in the dark and during long car rides.
As you can tell, I'm a hardcore Sudoku fiend now.
i wish you had to told me this EARLIER.

best sudoku and held game ever?

drum roll please!!!!!

its not even really a sudoku game, its mainly something else entire, it has sudoku there as a bonus and it so happens its the best ever, ever.


oh the suspense


haha!!!


ohh its killing


dude i dont hear any drums??






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its 19.99

but you will need a nintendo ds. but i trust u already have one.

if not you should have told me this sooner because i had an extra one, like 3 weeks ago, but i get it away already.

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I have a sudoku question for the advanced people. I like the hardest puzzles ("evil" level ) but apparently I'm slow. I don't really care because I don't like doing things fast, but I was wondering why am I slow? Now the way I do these is always by process of elimination - note all the possibilities then start to eliminate them. I don't think it is possible to do it this way much faster. So... is there a different method that the faster people use?
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its 19.99

but you will need a nintendo ds. but i trust u already have one.

if not you should have told me this sooner because i had an extra one, like 3 weeks ago, but i get it away already.

yea, a lot of people love brain age. i'd recommend it to u even though i havent played it myself =). I think it'd suit someone like you anyways.

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yea, a lot of people love brain age. i'd recommend it to u even though i havent played it myself =). I think it'd suit someone like you anyways.
one annoying thing about brain age's sudoku is that for every wrong answer they add 20!!!! fucking minutes to your total time!! talk about harsh.

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I have a sudoku question for the advanced people. I like the hardest puzzles ("evil" level ) but apparently I'm slow. I don't really care because I don't like doing things fast, but I was wondering why am I slow? Now the way I do these is always by process of elimination - note all the possibilities then start to eliminate them. I don't think it is possible to do it this way much faster. So... is there a different method that the faster people use?
i am not that fast. what i sometimes do is fill in all the 1's, 2's, 3's and then i do them by the box, and fill in by line or row everything that is left.

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i am not that fast. what i sometimes do is fill in all the 1's, 2's, 3's and then i do them by the box, and fill in by line or row everything that is left.
But, but, but..... how do you do that part?
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But, but, but..... how do you do that part?
ok, wow, i have no idea. i am sorry to be of such little help but i honestly dont know.

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I am having the same problem! I've browsed through all the books at B&N and Borders and they are all too easy for me. I DLed a Sudoku game for my celly, but I have already unlocked the hardest level and now I am also bored of it.

Sorry I can't be of any help. Maybe someone else will help us.
If you're like me, then you try to locate the most difficult puzzles available. And so far, the NZ Herald's are the most challenging, IMO.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/1...m?c_id=1500944

Also, check out this story... http://games.iafrica.com/news/390327.htm
Too bad they didn't post his creation.

Please, please please...
If you can locate any that are more challenging than these, let me know!

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i think they have one for nintendo ds...

wait let me check..

http://www.gamefaqs.com/search/index...oku&platform=0

yep, they have a few. =)


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so what is with this sudoku craze? I dont want to sound like a brat, but I've only completed one of them, and it was supposedly a hard one (i forgot the rating). It was ok and kind of fun but i dont know if I would care to do them over and over again. They're a simple version of those logic puzzles you find in those game&puzzle brain logic crap crossword-like magazines in the magazine sections of grocery / convenience / gas stores. now some of THOSE are hard.
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i wish you had to told me this EARLIER.

best sudoku and held game ever?

drum roll please!!!!!

its not even really a sudoku game, its mainly something else entire, it has sudoku there as a bonus and it so happens its the best ever, ever.


oh the suspense


haha!!!


ohh its killing


dude i dont hear any drums??






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its 19.99

but you will need a nintendo ds. but i trust u already have one.

if not you should have told me this sooner because i had an extra one, like 3 weeks ago, but i get it away already.

You guys are GREAT IDEA!! And that's why I love this place so much.

My princess has a Nintendo DS!! And though she's a bit selfish with it, maybe I can persuade her into letting me borrow it for the next 10 years.
Or maybe just buy my own?

Thanks again!!

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A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything. - Malcolm X
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You guys are GREAT IDEA!! And that's why I love this place so much.

My princess has a Nintendo DS!! And though she's a bit selfish with it, maybe I can persuade her into letting me borrow it for the next 10 years.
Or maybe just buy my own?

Thanks again!!


your princess DOES get treated like a princess!!

dude!!! i am sooo torn!!! i want the nintendo wii, but i dont, but i do. ugh!!

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I have a sudoku question for the advanced people. I like the hardest puzzles ("evil" level ) but apparently I'm slow. I don't really care because I don't like doing things fast, but I was wondering why am I slow? Now the way I do these is always by process of elimination - note all the possibilities then start to eliminate them. I don't think it is possible to do it this way much faster. So... is there a different method that the faster people use?
To me, solving em fast is only fun when you're racing someone [like I used to with my sons].
But most of the time, I solve puzzles while listening to smooth Jazz Fusion and sipping a cold drink. I'm so easily satisfied. It must be an age thang.

Anyway, this is my solution sequence:

Slice & Dice - An easy and quick process of elimination technique whereby you identify which line in a specific region may contain a certain number simply by scanning entire rows and/or columns. This is the most common technique.

PENCIL MARKS - Always use pencil marks at this point. This can literally shave 5 - 30 minutes off your time. I swear by it.

Counting - I stopped using this technique because it consumed far too much time. I only utilize this technique as a very last resort now. It's when you count from 1 - 9 while cross-referencing both rows and columns.

Twinning - This is an 'unmatched candidate of deletion' technique, of which you're more than likely familiar with as well.

Tripling/Triplets - exactly the same as twinning, except you include a third set of matching numbers. I use this one quite often as it eliminates 1/3 of all possible combinations within a given row, column, and square.
However, since this is also another common technique, you're probably already familiar with it.

All techniques from this point on are extremely difficult to describe, but suffice it to say that they all involve a logic some refer to as 'Consolidation', 'Adeline's Thread' [which is similar to a technique utilized by maze puzzlers], and finally a technique called 'If-Then', which is akin to what a Chess player employs and is very difficult due to the fact that you MUST maintain a 3 - 8 move sequence in your head. this is usually where the puzzles kick my butt.

I realize that thee are very simplified definitions, but if you want a more detailed description please let me know.

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your princess DOES get tried like a princess!!

dude!!! i am sooo torn!!! i want the nintendo wii, but i dont, but i do. ugh!!
What can I say? She's not called Princess for nuthin'.
But I hear ya on the Nintendo. I'm a Nintendo guy myself, as are my kids. Always have been. But money is funny nowadays, especially with the kids getting older and wanting more expensive items.
Lately they've been talking about that piece of crap Sony Playstaion 3. But I just don't like Sony products. I told them we'd get the X-Box 360 if they got good grades, but now they're both talking about Chinchillas and Microsoft’s ZUNE Media Player. So I don't know what the heck is up now.

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