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calling all cooks! Turkey and Thanksgiving advice needed

Sally got suckered into doing Thanksgiving this year and will be required to cook a 20 pound bird. I was wondering if anyone has ever butterflied the turkey (split it in half and removed the backbone) to expedite skin crisping and cooking time? I roast chickens like this and thought it might work with the turkey.

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I don't know, hon, that sounds too risky because if you mess up, you're totally screwed. You might want to consider doing two 10-pound birds because they are more manageable and don't dry out like a 20-pounder.

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I really don't know Helen... I am pretty confident it will work and save me hours in cooking time. If I had double ovens I'd do two 12 pound birds but I don't. But on the other hand I don't want to ruin the turkey. I really don't see how I could ruin it though. We don't present the whole bird and then carve it table side so if it's a little messy no one will be the wiser.
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I really don't know Helen... I am pretty confident it will work and save me hours in cooking time. If I had double ovens I'd do two 12 pound birds but I don't. But on the other hand I don't want to ruin the turkey. I really don't see how I could ruin it though. We don't present the whole bird and then carve it table side so if it's a little messy no one will be the wiser.
Then I guess go for it.

I was watching some of Sandra Lee on Sunday and thought she could do the perfect show, she could get thickly sliced turkey breast from the deli, instant gravy and mashed potatoes, and a frozen pie as the "semi-homemade" Thanksgiving dinner. I bet if I e-mailed her that idea, she'd use it, too.

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Re: calling all cooks! Turkey advice needed

I think the question is, will the bird still fit in the oven if you split it - might be a bit wide - and I don't know how you test for that (measure the girth, and compare it to the width of your oven?)

I've never done it, but assuming the thing fits, I don't see why it wouldn't work the same way butterflying a chicken would.
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Then I guess go for it.

I was watching some of Sandra Lee on Sunday and thought she could do the perfect show, she could get thickly sliced turkey breast from the deli, instant gravy and mashed potatoes, and a frozen pie as the "semi-homemade" Thanksgiving dinner. I bet if I e-mailed her that idea, she'd use it, too.

Don't you think that thickly sliced deli turkey is a bit too upscale for her show? If I know Sandra like I think I do, she'd take one of those pressed turkey loaves in a can (or god forbid Turkey Spam), spike it with lots of booze, and serve the congealed fatty gel from those cans as the gravy. And of course using SPAM, her "tablescape" (and clothes) would be blue.
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I think the question is, will the bird still fit in the oven if you split it - might be a bit wide - and I don't know how you test for that (measure the girth, and compare it to the width of your oven?)

I've never done it, but assuming the thing fits, I don't see why it wouldn't work the same way butterflying a chicken would.
I would find the diameter of the turkey, multiply by 2, and subtract the width of the backbone I was removing, then see if it would fit the pan. Not that I have done any of that in preperation.
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Do it your way and also reserve a table in a restaurant.

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Sally got suckered into doing Thanksgiving this year and will be required to cook a 20 pound bird. I was wondering if anyone has ever butterflied the turkey (split it in half and removed the backbone) to expedite skin crisping and cooking time? I roast chickens like this and thought it might work with the turkey.
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Don't you think that thickly sliced deli turkey is a bit too upscale for her show? If I know Sandra like I think I do, she'd take one of those pressed turkey loaves in a can (or god forbid Turkey Spam), spike it with lots of booze, and serve the congealed fatty gel from those cans as the gravy. And of course using SPAM, her "tablescape" (and clothes) would be blue.
You know, I think she would use Spam, that's right up her "fat-laden, salt-laden" alley. Her "homemade" part would be the gravy, she'd fry up some bacon, take the bacon grease, mix with butter, melt, then throw in some flour, and that would be the "homemade" gravy for the Spam.

Is it just me, or is Paula Deen becoming like almost unwatchable? It's like she's too over the top now. And I'm totally starting to think that Dave Lieberman had to sleep with someone to get that gig. It was either Rachel, or Ina, I'm thinking.

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LOL, I agree. Paula is unwatchable. Sandra, Dave, and Rachel are as well.

food network is about to die. lol

No seriously Giada, Ina and Nigella all fucking rawkout. lol
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LOL, I agree. Paula is unwatchable. Sandra, Dave, and Rachel are as well.

food network is about to die. lol

No seriously Giada, Ina and Nigella all fucking rawkout. lol
Giada is the only one I really like watching anymore. Maybe it's because she's hot, or that I've made a ton of her stuff, and it's always been amazingly good.

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You know, I think she would use Spam, that's right up her "fat-laden, salt-laden" alley. Her "homemade" part would be the gravy, she'd fry up some bacon, take the bacon grease, mix with butter, melt, then throw in some flour, and that would be the "homemade" gravy for the Spam.

Is it just me, or is Paula Deen becoming like almost unwatchable? It's like she's too over the top now. And I'm totally starting to think that Dave Lieberman had to sleep with someone to get that gig. It was either Rachel, or Ina, I'm thinking.
Dave is cute is a dorky sort of way. I'm sure if he had to sleep with anyone to get the show it would be Ray since she's become the queen of the network. I hate her talk show btw. Shut the fuck up! Someone needs to give that girl a muzzle.

Helen, Paula had a cooking demonstration here a few months ago. I decided to go watch. First red light went off ...The tickets cost $80 a pop. I decided to go anyway with a friend. Parking was terrible. When we got in there were about 5000 people. Paula and her husband came out.. she looks skinnier in person btw but still orange as an oompa loompa from the fake spray tan (he however still looks fat and like Santa). She said she was going to do 4 recipes. Well by the end of the 2 hour event she had only done one. A crappy Sandra Lee -like tomato pie. They had horrible crowd control and throughout the whole thing people kept asking her if they could have a picture with her or if she'd sign their books. One lady even asked Paula to call her mother on the cell phone to wish her happy birthday. It was crazy. They should have said NO and told the audience she'd do all that after the demo. An hour into it and people were pissed and booing. Lots of the walked out. I felt kind of bad for Paula though. She was being very nice and accomodating to everyone but at some point you need to say no right? It was really the fault of the ogranizers.
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Dave is cute is a dorky sort of way. I'm sure if he had to sleep with anyone to get the show it would be Ray since she's become the queen of the network. I hate her talk show btw. Shut the fuck up! Someone needs to give that girl a muzzle.

Helen, Paula had a cooking demonstration here a few months ago. I decided to go watch. First red light went off ...The tickets cost $80 a pop. I decided to go anyway with a friend. Parking was terrible. When we got in there were about 5000 people. Paula and her husband came out.. she looks skinnier in person btw but still orange as an oompa loompa from the fake spray tan (he however still looks fat and like Santa). She said she was going to do 4 recipes. Well by the end of the 2 hour event she had only done one. A crappy Sandra Lee -like tomato pie. They had horrible crowd control and throughout the whole thing people kept asking her if they could have a picture with her or if she'd sign their books. One lady even asked Paula to call her mother on the cell phone to wish her happy birthday. It was crazy. They should have said NO and told the audience she'd do all that after the demo. An hour into it and people were pissed and booing. Lots of the walked out. I felt kind of bad for Paula though. She was being very nice and accomodating to everyone but at some point you need to say no right? It was really the fault of the ogranizers.
I think she's getting too commercial. I ate at the Lady and Sons a couple of years ago, and it was marvelous, but it was like 2 hours to get in to get a table.
I ordered her magazine 6 months ago, which was a mistake. The early ones had a lot of recipes, but it's turned into Martha Stewart Living where like 3/4 of it is ads and her promoting brands and stuff, it really sucks now, I don't even think she's doing a lot of the content anymore. And she has this section where you write in. Some old bat like 80 years old writes in to see if Paula will autograph a book for her. Paula responds that she can order an autographed book on-line from the Lady and Sons, basically telling the woman to buy an autographed copy. It wasn't even subtle, I was cracking up.

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