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Al Sharpton: 'Gangsterism' Harming Blacks

Sharpton: 'Gangsterism' Harming Blacks

By CLIFF BRUNT
Associated Press Writer

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Many black youths fall under a spell of "gangster mentality," preventing them from becoming leaders and making a positive impact in politics, the Rev. Al Sharpton said.

The civil rights activist faulted Hollywood and the record industry for making "gangsterism" seem cool and acceptable.

"We have got to get out of this gangster mentality, acting as if gangsterism and blackness are synonymous," Sharpton said Thursday at the annual conference of the National Association of Black Journalists.

"I think we've allowed a whole generation of young people to feel that if they're focused, they're not black enough. If they speak well and act well, they're acting white, and there's nothing more racist than that."

The key to leadership is taking the initiative to change things, said Sharpton. He said his National Action Network is just one group willing to help young black leaders get into politics.

"Nobody broke in my house in Brooklyn and dragged me out the projects and made me a leader, I wanted to do that. Clearly, we would work with young people who want to do the work," he said.

Lottie Shackelford, vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, said during the same panel discussion that the time is ripe for getting more young black people involved.

"So many young folks are waiting to be asked, or they say they want others to move so they can gain a slot, and I say, there's room for everybody. Let's work together," she said.

Sharpton, who competed in several Democratic primaries during a 2004 presidential bid, said he might run again in 2008 but will decide after this November's elections.
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I cannot respect a man who's hair is longer than one of my sisters. What male senior citizen goes around wearing a bone straight perm? I've always wondered how Sharpton manages his do.
Pink Sponge Rollers or Hot Curlers? Palmer's Coconut Grease or Dog Maine?
Now that's gangsta! Man, I swear some of these media appointed black leaders are a JOKE.
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I cannot respect a man who's hair is longer than one of my sisters. What male senior citizen goes around wearing a bone straight perm? I've always wondered how Sharpton manages his do.
Pink Sponge Rollers or Hot Curlers? Palmer's Coconut Grease or Dog Maine?
Now that's gangsta! Man, I swear some of these media appointed black leaders are a JOKE.
That's no perm, the man has "good hair".

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From the "we already knew dept." . . . lol! Some of Matt's stuff is cool, but alot of it is kinda obvious. I like his obsession with what he apparently thinks are demeaning articles on minorities - kinda like why I'm sure the threadstarter posted this article. . .LOL!!!!!

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From the "we already knew dept." . . . lol! Some of Matt's stuff is cool, but alot of it is kinda obvious. I like his obsession with what he apparently thinks are demeaning articles on minorities - kinda like why I'm sure the threadstarter posted this article. . .LOL!!!!!
When Bill Cosby said essentially the same, it became "attack the messenger" here, re. Fat Albert having been a stereotype that Coz made $ off of back when, that he never recovered from his son's murder, etc. When the late C. Dolores Tucker did (or I cited her) the bigoted words of her onetime ally William Bennett were used as a way to try to discredit her.

Now I guess Sharpton (who I freely admit has a checkered past with things like the Tawana Brawley case) will be attacked for trying to raise his profile for the 2008 Democratic primaries. OK, he may well be. But that, his hair, etc, don't affect whether he's right in this case (which he is) any more than the thread starter's motivations.

Re. your words about "we already knew", OK. Now has the black community risen up in huge numbers to express outrage @ the gangsta rap culture, etc? To cite Sharpton's friend Jesse Jackson's speech to the black ministers in Washington DC from the early 90's, blacks are (still) far more likely 2B harmed by the BBB (Bad Black Brother) than by the KKK (or others like them).
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I cannot respect a man who's hair is longer than one of my sisters. What male senior citizen goes around wearing a bone straight perm? I've always wondered how Sharpton manages his do.
Pink Sponge Rollers or Hot Curlers? Palmer's Coconut Grease or Dog Maine?
Now that's gangsta! Man, I swear some of these media appointed black leaders are a JOKE.
What does his hair and his words have to do each other?


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From the "we already knew dept." . . . lol! Some of Matt's stuff is cool, but alot of it is kinda obvious. I like his obsession with what he apparently thinks are demeaning articles on minorities - kinda like why I'm sure the threadstarter posted this article. . .LOL!!!!!
Silly little man (and I use the term "man" loosely). You are always whining about something or somebody. Always complaining about where posted articles come from instead of discussing them.

Its a pattern from you as of late. Just about anything I post in Non-Tennis you complain about because you ignorantly think everything I post comes from Matt Drudges website.

FYI, once again, this article didn't originate from Matt Drudge's website. I'll slowly type so you have a better chance of understanding. A-S-S-O-C-I-A-T-E-D P-R-E-S-S.

Please work on that obsession. And entertain the possibility of getting laid so you aren't so critical.

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What does his hair and his words have to do each other?
I think presentation is very important when addressing the public especially if you are a leader. Futhermore, what he says isn't going to be respected much because he is a polarizing figure. I have always questioned what type of statement he was trying to make with the outrageous hairstyle. The only older black men I know with a perm and style like that have been in jail and have lived some of that "gangsta lifestle" he's talking about.

Sharpton represents everything that's wrong with black leadership today. For him to state the obvious about the plight of black youth in the inner cities while at the same time associating himself with rappers and entertainers who sell this image is hypocritical. Personally, I just don't have any respect for the man especially after the Tawanna Brawley episode.
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I can't believe I agree with Al Sharpton
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I think presentation is very important when addressing the public especially if you are a leader. Futhermore, what he says isn't going to be respected much because he is a polarizing figure. I have always questioned what type of statement he was trying to make with the outrageous hairstyle. The only older black men I know with a perm and style like that have been in jail and have lived some of that "gangsta lifestle" he's talking about.

Sharpton represents everything that's wrong with black leadership today. For him to state the obvious about the plight of black youth in the inner cities while at the same time associating himself with rappers and entertainers who sell this image is hypocritical. Personally, I just don't have any respect for the man especially after the Tawanna Brawley episode.
I accept that Sharpton (along with Jackson, Cosby, and others who say things like this, even if for their own prestige more than to really change things) may well have "feet of clay". So I have a very simple challenge to make: others do it, then.

Like Michael Jordan, who made $20 a pair of Air Jordans sold x many millions of pairs. (And Shaq, LeBron, etc.) And major black actors like Jamie Foxx. And politicians like Barack Obama. And Oprah, a one-woman media empire. And media personalities like Wendy Williams. Etc. etc.

The bit about all this being obvious rings hollow. It was equally obvious in the 1950's, etc. that black America was victimized by segregation, lynchings, and a host of other indignities. Martin Luther King didn't shrug and say that it was obvious, he organized a virtual insurrection.

Now its more complex, as blacks are the main victimizers as well as the victims. (And a star doesn't want 2B seen as "uncool", especially as the gangbangers and drug dealers have more money to buy all the stuff many of them are paid to endorse). Plus these folks rarely live in the urban "war zones".

Lastly, Martin Luther King organized the famous march from Selma to Montgomery, and on Washington DC (where he gave his "I Have A Dream" speech). Who will lead the marches on the headquarters of companies like Def Jam Records?
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Silly little man (and I use the term "man" loosely). You are always whining about something or somebody. Always complaining about where posted articles come from instead of discussing them.

Its a pattern from you as of late.
Fixed your post.
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Hmm..., yeah.

It's gotta be tough for someone like A.S. to present a 'known' problem with the reputation that he has. but I agree with you... and Al.

After witnessing, firsthand, the influence that gangsta rap has on [all] teens, it (imo) has become enemy #1 in many communities. I'm a product of such an environment, but managed to emerge relatively untouched by the gangsta world.
What the article doen't mention, however, is the mental and physical repercussions that teens endure when they do rebuke the temptation of the gangsta rap [world] and associated idiosyncrasies. For instance, in certain communities, not only is it impossible to avoid, it is down-right terminal to do so. You become a target, as well as your family.
So, to lip-sync the dangers is all well and good. So many have done so in the past, and currently as well. But to offer zero suggestions on how to do it, like say---

...GOING AFTER THE HUGE DISTRIBUTORS: RECORD COMPANIES; MARKETING FIRMS; CLOTHING; JEWELRY; and the myriad PARAPHERNALIA SHOPS...

... it remains nothing more than lip-synching, a la Bill Cosby.
And to be honest, since gangsta rap has been bastardized, manipulated, and rebuilt to damn near create the illusion of ultimate success, I don't see how one would go about changing it [short-term].

It's really sad that we have such ineffective and opportunistic [non]leaders in the Black community. It would be so great to have another MLK Jr. emerge from this the wastelands we call Black America.

For those unaware of the crap called gangsta rap:
It represents a small, yet growing sector of the Hip-Hop culture, that marketing firms use to exploit at the expense of an entire group of people [for profit]. Moreover, I hate it when bruthas sell-out and are too damn weak to forego the dollars signs that are further hurting their own communities.

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Silly little man (and I use the term "man" loosely). You are always whining about something or somebody. Always complaining about where posted articles come from instead of discussing them.

Its a pattern from you as of late. Just about anything I post in Non-Tennis you complain about because you ignorantly think everything I post comes from Matt Drudges website.

FYI, once again, this article didn't originate from Matt Drudge's website. I'll slowly type so you have a better chance of understanding. A-S-S-O-C-I-A-T-E-D P-R-E-S-S.

Please work on that obsession. And entertain the possibility of getting laid so you aren't so critical.

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