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Americans: who will be our next president?

I hope Hillary runs, and I think her chances of winning are pretty good, unless McCain runs against her...I can't think of any other strong Republican condidates, and that's a good thing.
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I think McCain or Hillary. McCain is a guy that I think would be a really good president because he seems like an honest and independent guy.

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What about the Massachussets governor. I thought he was a favourite among the Republicans?
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McCain will NEVER get out of the Republican primaries alive.

Ever.

Romney's going to face a similar problem - getting the nomination. Polls in key areas have shown fairly high numbers of likely GOP votes who can't deal with the fact that he's a Mormon (quite sad in this day and age), and the fact that he is from MA makes some of the hard-core conservative types distrust him automatically, despite his attempts to pander to them these past few years. Hard to blame them - when he ran for governor, he told supporters he would not oppose emergency contraception, or stem cell research, and that while he personally opposed gay marriage he wouldn't try to hinder it if the SJC ruled in favor of it, and of course once in office with his eyes on the White House, he did the exact opposite. I wouldn't trust his word on anything either (oddly enough, it's not the left-of-center that's most pissed at him for this - we never trusted him in the first place - but more moderate GOP activists in the state who feel like her personally lied to them. Because he did )

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Hillary has a great chance to win.

However, that is good for the GOP. Since,
even an annoyed base would rally to defeat
Hillary and Billary. The tag team. They
would rally the opposition.

But, don't count out other Democrats:
Obama, the former Gov. of VA Warner,
Bayh, Kerry, Gore, Richardson, etc.
Not to mention the Mayor of LA. The
Democrats have a lot of very attractive
Mayors and Governors to choose from,
black,brown, female, etc.

Not Nagin.

However -

If Cindy Sheehan and her gaggle of anti-war,
anti-Bush, anti-American groups hate Clinton
for her position on Iraq (and Afghanistan by
the way), which they have publicly stated,
she is in for some troubles. Only because
the far left controls the DNC convention and
grassroots more often than not. The Not In Our
Name crowd will demand a lot of anti-war, anti-Israel,
anti-American style concessions from Hillary, and
she can't be seen caving publicly on that type of
thing. She'd lose her so called 'moderate' stance
on some key foreign policy issues.

However, she's the clear favorite.

For the GOP, we've got McCain. He knows he's
annoyed just about everyone in the GOP for years
(after that Keating Scandal he got grumpier). Speaking
to Falwell, Schuller, etc., is for a reason: he's
groveling for votes. He's pro-life, and in the end,
that is what will get him more (though not as much
as Bush) votes among Christians who line up with
the GOP. Fact is Bush would campaign for him, since
McCain campaigned for him in 2000 and 2004. He
is loyal if nothing else.

However, his immigration policy will kill him w/the
traditional GOP voter. He better hope that bill w/his
name on it, dies fast. He's wrong on this issue, and
many will vote for a 3rd party person than him on
this one issue alone. Which only helps the Democrats.
But, the GOP does that, see Ross Perot, helped
Bill Clinton win twice.

Other than McCain, there is Allen in Virginia (if he
wins his re-election that is), Romney in MA (no real
chance, but, he's making noise), Martinez in Florida,
and there is always the former Cabinet people like
Tom Ridge (veteran, homeland security,governor)
and Rice (she always says no, but, you know that
can change), etc. There is Chuck Hagel (ha ha),
Mr. I am all that Bush is not. Sort of a mini-me
for McCain. I would never count out Powell or
even former General Franks either, both regulars
on the speaking circuit and radio talk shows.

Did anyone think Bush would win the nomination
over the seasoned McCain when he did two in 1998?
Not many. It's early. Clear frontrunners don't always
win. Clinton came out of nowhere to take the nomination
from Al Gore.


Both parties need someone who is a good candidate,
good leader, good fundraiser, and can win the key
states. Some states are locks, i.e., California for
the Democrats, Texas for the Republicans, etc. But,
they need to win Colorado and Florida and Missouri
and Ohio too.

McCain has a temper, and can be very rude. Short
fuse. Clinton can be cold, aloof, and monotone.
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I hope Hillary runs, and I think her chances of winning are pretty good, unless McCain runs against her...I can't think of any other strong Republican condidates, and that's a good thing.
Hillary would get stomped by John McCain. Her negatives (those who would never vote for her) are already close to 50%.

The only way Hillary gets elected is if Bill Clinton dies before the election. That would make her task MUCH easier.

If Democrats are serious about electing a president they need to look for a southerner like Warner.

No Democrat has been elected President since Kennedy (1960) unless he's been a moderate from the South (Johnson,Carter and Clinton).
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when push comes to shove, can McCain and Hillary win their parties' nominations?

Both the nomination races are WIDE open. Look out for a wildcard candidate on the Republican side, maybe Tommy Franks. The conservatives will be looking for ANYBODY but McCain. He will have pretend to be very conservative to win the GOP slate. I don't think Condy Rice is really that well liked by the GOP grassroots many of whom are chauvinists and/or racists.

Hillary has the advantage out of the gate on the Dem side, but there may be some as yet little known candidates who will resonate more with the public. If Hillary doesn't come off as conservative Dem, she has no chance to win the general election. Ross Perot isn't running in '08 to bail the Dems out like he did twice for Bill.
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In 1980, I actually voted for John Anderson. Since then, my only option has been to vote against some dumbass sumbitch by choosing the lesser of two evils.

I'd like to actually vote for somebody again, but it doesn't look likely.

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John McCain will be the next president of the United States. As much as the conservative wing of the Republican may dislike or distrust him, its not enough to make them stay away from the polls or cross over and vote for a Democrat.
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John McCain will be the next president of the United States. As much as the conservative wing of the Republican may dislike or distrust him, its not enough to make them stay away from the polls or cross over and vote for a Democrat.
Of course not, but it is enough for them to get someone else nominated.

I would actually consider voting for McCain, which is not something you could say about most Republicans, but the same things that make me consider him a viable option guarantee that he'll never win the nomination.

(fyi, Bush II was never considered a longshot in the primaries for the 2000 election - in fact a number of prominent Republicans took one look at the money he had to work with early on and decided to sit out the election)

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Condoleeza for President!!!!






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Condoleeza for President!!!!


never, ever, ever, ever.
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John McCain will be the next president of the United States. As much as the conservative wing of the Republican may dislike or distrust him, its not enough to make them stay away from the polls or cross over and vote for a Democrat.
i'm afraid that if Hillary runs, she will win.......


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never, ever, ever, ever.


Coondoleeza would be too good to be real......


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