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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old Jul 21st, 2006, 03:43 PM Thread Starter
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Bonds-No Indictment, New Grand Jury?

While I may not like Barry Bonds (San Francisco Giant era),
and I do think the man took steroids and other illegal
substances to enhance his strength, body, and career,
and come back from injury faster...the Grand Jury has
been in place for a long time, and came up empty on him.

It doesn't take much for a Grand Jury to bring down
an indictment, it's really a very low threshold.

Yet, the Feds couldn't meet that level.

So, they are going again.

Why?

If you have him on tax evasion, much like Pete Rose
with collectibles and card signings and under the table
cash not reported to the IRS, that's what you have.

But, enough with the BALCO thing. It's been ridden
into the ground. Without testimony from guys who
evidently are not going to rat him out in court, it's done.


We know he cheated: look at his head. How do you
make your head grow?

We know McGwire and Sosa cheated, and their year full
of good guys going for the big record was a bunch of
trash now. They are silenced into shame, their post-game
careers are ignored and they stay out of the limelight.
They have to.

So, let's move on. Unless there is something else we
don't know much about, this thing should go another
route.

Barry is not guilty of anything at all yet. If they can't
get him on perjury, they're done w/that. Move on to
other things.

Barry will never be Babe Ruth or Michael Jordan or
Andre Agassi. The guy has a stain on his career and
record, and he can't shake that. But, let him move on,
if they can't indict him after all this time, move on.
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I think major league baseball is trying to pin all the steroid mess on Barry Bonds. He cheated, but I'm sure a bunch of other players cheated during that era as well.

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He's the only star player caught up in the steroids mess who
is still playing big league ball.

Giambi said he was sorry. The guy also spent a lot of
time in the hospital, and his game went south. He's
only now coming back. But, he was never as big
a name as Bonds to the game.

Bonds was never a 'liked' ball player with other players
or the fans or the media. So,he's a real easy target to
dislike even more now. He earned the attention with a
nasty public attitude. But, he's a great player.

Sad thing is, he was probably a hall of fame player w/o
the steroids and before he got to San Francisco.



The other guys busted in 2006 have been no names.

Palmiero is smeared.

His career is over.
He said he didn't do it before Congress.
Then, bam, he tests positive a few months later.


The home run king title is in the making. Bonds is the
guy. He's linked by testimony and rumor to the
federal Balco case. I think that's worth investigating.
But, they did, got something, but, not all they wanted.
Move on already. Tax evasion? That may be it for them.

I think baseball would like him to just quit, and go away,
like McGwire and Sosa and Palmiero did.
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Originally Posted by samsung101
He's the only star player caught up in the steroids mess who
is still playing big league ball.

Giambi said he was sorry. The guy also spent a lot of
time in the hospital, and his game went south. He's
only now coming back. But, he was never as big
a name as Bonds to the game.

Bonds was never a 'liked' ball player with other players
or the fans or the media. So,he's a real easy target to
dislike even more now. He earned the attention with a
nasty public attitude. But, he's a great player.

Sad thing is, he was probably a hall of fame player w/o
the steroids and before he got to San Francisco.



The other guys busted in 2006 have been no names.

Palmiero is smeared.

His career is over.
He said he didn't do it before Congress.
Then, bam, he tests positive a few months later.


The home run king title is in the making. Bonds is the
guy. He's linked by testimony and rumor to the
federal Balco case. I think that's worth investigating.
But, they did, got something, but, not all they wanted.
Move on already. Tax evasion? That may be it for them.

I think baseball would like him to just quit, and go away,
like McGwire and Sosa and Palmiero did.

I agree growing up playing baseball Barry was my favorite players. He was an awesome player when he played for the pirates. Barry needs to just step down because IMO the biggest steroid users were probably the pitchers.

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He's the only star player caught up in the steroids mess who is still playing big league ball.
What about Gary Sheffield, Ivan Rodriguez, Miguel Tejada, Jason Giambi, Luis Rodriguez ...
And there are rumors about the sudden suspect longevity of a number of star pitchers.
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Giambi said he was sorry.
No he didn't. He never once publicly admitted taking steroids.
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The guy also spent a lot of time in the hospital, and his game went south. He's only now coming back.
I don't have the split, but he was back in the second half of last season. The off year was 2004. He played 139 out of 162 games last year, and hit over 30 homers. And he's carrying the Yankees this year.
2003 NYY 156 535 97 134 25 0 41 107 282 129 140 2 1 .412 .527 .250
2004 NYY _80 264 33 _55 _9 0 12 _40 100 _47 _62 0 1 .342 .379 .208
2005 NYY 139 417 74 113 14 0 32 _87 223 108 109 0 0 .440 .535 .271


On top of that, HGH is all over the sport, precisely because there's no test for it.

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