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Exclamation Call Me Crazy But I Don't Think Katie Holmes Was Ever Pregnant

For starters, why did it take so long for a birth certificate to be filed? Generally, a birth certificate is supposed to be filed withing seven days of a child's birth (I know mine was)

Then, how come we have not seen pictures of the baby? As publicity crazy as Tom and Katie were, I find it surprising that they did not give an exclusive to a US magazine like People, US or OK!(US version)

Also, can someone explain the following? (pictures courtesy of TMZ.com)



Take a good look at the above pictures. In the March 25th pic, she is supposed to be eight month pregnant, but look at the April 5th picture. In that picture, she hardly looks five months pregnant. Where did those three months (and the rest of the baby) go?



The last picture was taken two days before she (allegedly) delivered

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Believe me when I say you are not the only one questioning this supposed pregnancy.

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i had no idea about her not beingprenant but good points tho

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The same nurse who signed the birth certificate for Tom Cruise's daughter Suri also signed the birth certificate for Brooke Shields' daughter Grier, but there's an interesting discrepancy.

Both babies were born on April 18 at St. John's Hospital in Santa Monica. Anne Heffernan is the registered nurse who signed both birth certificates. As TMZ reported Monday, Heffernan, who never saw Suri, signed her birth certificate. A hospital rep says Heffernan is authorized to sign when a doctor is not available.

On the Suri Cruise certificate, Heffernan's license number is G48079. On the Grier Henchy certificate, Heffernan's license number is different -- G068399. TMZ checked with the California Board of Registered Nursing and we were told Heffernan's license number didn't match either of the birth certificates. A Board rep told TMZ Hefferman's license number is 317058.

And it gets more interesting. The Board of Registered Nursing told TMZ the license number on Grier's certificate comes back to a Dorothy Rork. The license number on Suri's birth certificate is a mystery. There is no name attached to that license number.

By the way, unlike Suri's birth certificate, Brooke Shields signed the one for her daughter. Someone listed as "Friend" signed the certificate for Suri.

Also, the hospital's policy is to file birth certificates with L.A. County within 10 days of birth. In the case of Suri, it took 20 days to file, in part because the "friend" didn't sign for 16 days. In Grier's case, Brooke herself signed two days after her birth and the certificate was filed nine days after the baby was born.

TMZ placed multiple calls to St. John's. So far, no comment.

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The same nurse who signed the birth certificate for Tom Cruise's daughter Suri also signed the birth certificate for Brooke Shields' daughter Grier, but there's an interesting discrepancy.

Both babies were born on April 18 at St. John's Hospital in Santa Monica. Anne Heffernan is the registered nurse who signed both birth certificates. As TMZ reported Monday, Heffernan, who never saw Suri, signed her birth certificate. A hospital rep says Heffernan is authorized to sign when a doctor is not available.

On the Suri Cruise certificate, Heffernan's license number is G48079. On the Grier Henchy certificate, Heffernan's license number is different -- G068399. TMZ checked with the California Board of Registered Nursing and we were told Heffernan's license number didn't match either of the birth certificates. A Board rep told TMZ Hefferman's license number is 317058.

And it gets more interesting. The Board of Registered Nursing told TMZ the license number on Grier's certificate comes back to a Dorothy Rork. The license number on Suri's birth certificate is a mystery. There is no name attached to that license number.

By the way, unlike Suri's birth certificate, Brooke Shields signed the one for her daughter. Someone listed as "Friend" signed the certificate for Suri.

Also, the hospital's policy is to file birth certificates with L.A. County within 10 days of birth. In the case of Suri, it took 20 days to file, in part because the "friend" didn't sign for 16 days. In Grier's case, Brooke herself signed two days after her birth and the certificate was filed nine days after the baby was born.

TMZ placed multiple calls to St. John's. So far, no comment.
I am not that experienced on birth law, but I thought it was against the law for anyone other than the birth mother to sign a birth certificate. In the case of a woman dying after childbirth, then the father (or guardian) is supposed to sign the birth certificate.

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Suri does not exist

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of course she wasn't, not at least from a closeted gay husband Tommy...

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Honestly, Katie and Tom are the biggest freak show on earth. They creep me out. What the fuck is going on with them? They are so weird.
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Another thing that is strange is that no one has seen Katie or a nanny take the baby to the doctor. Everyone knows that a newborn has to see his/her doctor within a month of his/her birth.

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I get the feeling this whole pregnancy thing is a hoax, too, but why didn't they plan it better? Why didn't they adopt some baby or something? It's all just so fucking weird.
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Another thing that is strange is that no one has seen Katie or a nanny take the baby to the doctor. Everyone knows that a newborn has to see his/her doctor within a month of his/her birth.

Dang Liz you're more thorough than the real detectives!

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Another thing that is strange is that no one has seen Katie or a nanny take the baby to the doctor. Everyone knows that a newborn has to see his/her doctor within a month of his/her birth.
you rock.... before this thread i THOUGHT maybe the preg was fake. now i KNOW it was. you are amazing. rock on!!

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Well I think the entire thing is very weird as is Tom and now Katie. But there is a baby. They don't admit people into a maternity ward for nothing. They can have the doctor go to their home, ya know. It's just gonna be a rough time for the kid until she can free herself of her freak parents in about 15 years. Hopefully Katie will gain her senses soon enough and take the baby with her.
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Another thing that is strange is that no one has seen Katie or a nanny take the baby to the doctor. Everyone knows that a newborn has to see his/her doctor within a month of his/her birth.
yes how could Tom Cruise afford to have a doctor who makes house calls

I don't doubt for a second that they are a very odd couple but i don't buy into this conspiracy theory about there being no baby. You're far from the first person to suggest it.

After all the shit they got for doing the publicity before the baby was born it's hardly surprising he's now ultra cautious about it.

I feel sorry for the baby if it does exist though.

I feel the most sympathy for his adopted children - imagine being stuck in the middle of their parents weird lives.
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Well in the April 5 photo, I think the wind coule have blown her clothes so it could have obscured her tummy, whereas in the earlier photo she was wearing a tighter shirt.

But anyway, I think they probably did have a baby. But we're probably just not seeing it for Scientology reasons

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