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Israel To Occupy So Lebanon As Buffer; BREAKING: Mideast Peace Talks Fail in Rome

Israel sends tanks into Lebanon after Hezbollah attack
Israel denounces 'act of war'

Wednesday, July 12, 2006; Posted: 1:17 p.m. EDT (17:17 GMT)

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Hezbollah guerrillas killed seven Israeli soldiers and captured two more Wednesday, triggering Israeli airstrikes and military raids inside southern Lebanon, Israeli officials said.

Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah told reporters that "direct negotiations" would be the only way to return the soldiers and that their capture was "our natural, only and logical right."

He demanded the soldiers be swapped for "our prisoners" held by Israel. A demand for Israel to release Palestinians from its jails has been made by Palestinian militants who captured another Israeli soldier, Cpl. Gilad Shalit, last month. (Watch gunfire and smoke as Israeli troops enter southern Lebanon -- 2:55)

Nasrallah said the two soldiers taken Wednesday had been moved to "a faraway place." Israel has repeatedly refused to consider any swap for jailed Palestinians.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said the Hezbollah attacks were an "act of war" and blamed the Lebanese government, which he said would be held responsible.

He promised a "very painful and far-reaching" response, The Associated Press reported.

There have been only sporadic border clashes since Israel withdrew its forces from southern Lebanon in 2000 after 22 years of occupation.

Three of the seven soldiers who were killed Wednesday died during fighting with Hezbollah along the Israeli-Lebanese border, and four were killed later as Israeli troops moved into southern Lebanon, said Israel Defense Forces.

In a claim broadcast on Hezbollah's television channel, Hezbollah said it had "destroyed" an Israeli tank crossing into the region.

Thunder and smoke
The valleys along the Israeli-Lebanese border thundered with artillery fire and clouds of blue-gray smoke could be seen rising above Lebanese positions.

Israeli forces, observers said, were bombing roads, bridges and guerrilla positions in southern Lebanon in an attempt to prevent guerrillas from moving the troops deeper into Lebanon.

Israeli forces are also responding to rocket attacks fired by Hezbollah into northern Israel, according to the army.

Israeli military sources confirmed a troop buildup on the northern border and said preparations were being made for possible call-up of reserve soldiers.

"This morning there was an attack on civilians and soldiers in the north. At this moment there are Israeli security forces operating inside Lebanon," Olmert told reporters.

"The government will convene this evening for a special Cabinet meeting. I want to make clear that the events this morning are not a terror attack but an operation of a sovereign state without any reason or provocation."

The Israeli Cabinet is scheduled to meet at 7 p.m. (noon ET), according to Olmert's office.

"The Lebanese government, which Hezbollah is part of, is trying to undermine the stability of the region, and the Lebanese government will be responsible for the consequences," Olmert said.

Hezbollah, Lebanon, Syria and Iran
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice condemned Hezbollah for its action and singled out Syria, which she said has a "special responsibility to use its influence to support a positive outcome."

State Department officials said the United States recognizes that there is little the Lebanese government can do to control Hezbollah.

While the United States sees Lebanon's government, which includes Hezbollah in its Cabinet, as an important interlocutor with Hezbollah, State Department officials have said they recognize that Lebanon does not have the capacity to expand its authority into the south, where Hezbollah has control.

These officials said the United States is holding Syria and Iran responsible for support of Hezbollah.

'We will turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years'
Responding to the most recent incident along the Israel-Lebanon border, Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz said in a statement: "The State of Israel sees itself free to use all measures that it finds it needs, and the [Israeli Forces] have been given orders in that direction."

Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Dan Halutz told Israeli Channel 10, "If the soldiers are not returned we will turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years."

Four Israeli civilians and six soldiers have been wounded in the fighting so far, according to the Israeli military.

The IDF instructed citizens in northern villages to take shelter as the violence escalated.

It is the latest skirmish between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon, whose forces traded cross-border fire in late May following the assassination of an Islamic Jihad official in the southern Lebanese city of Sidon.

Mahmoud Majzoub, also known as Abu Hamza, was killed in a car bombing, which Islamic Jihad blamed on Israel. Israel denied any involvement in the incident.

Hezbollah is designated a terrorist group by the United States and Israel but is a significant player in Lebanon's fractious politics.

Israel set up a security buffer zone in southern Lebanon from 1978 until 2000.

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7 soldiers killed
3 soldiers kidnapped

Things are getting really agressive.

Olmert I knew it would happen.

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This could create tension in an otherwise tranquil region of the world.

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This could create tension in an otherwise tranquil region of the world.
Life goes on. The Israelis should think that otherwise they will go crazy.
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Tranquil?

What?

Life in that region has never been tranquil.
Israel on the map is the size of a pea.
Surrounded by nations and groups that
want it and all the citizens wiped off that map.



Israel should do whatever it needs to do to secure
its safety, security, national identity, and soldiers.

They have been provoked once again.
The UN as usual, seems to blame Israel. What's new.

Let us hope for a repeat of a short and swift war, if
there must be one. I hope it doesn't happen though.

Life goes on...not if the enemies of Israel have their
way. That's the point.
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The Lebanese goverment are a joke. They say that they are not responsible for the kidnap, while the it has been made from their own country, by a party who have lots of power in the parliamant.

Kofi Annan is also pathetic. How can he criticize Israel action in Lebanon, while there are 2 soldiers who were captured by the Hizbullah? maybe he wants that just watch what's happening and do nothing.

Nasrallah is no more than leader of a terror group. Why do he thinks that prisoners are the same as kidnapped soldiers?
The Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners are in jail for one reason - They are related to terror. If Israel will release, as the Hezbollah wants prisioners, Those "people" will just return to work on terror attacks against Israel.
I just wish that the IDF will use the power that he have(and he have lot more power than he used today) to destroy the terror orgnizations and bring back the soldiers home.
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Tranquil?

What?

Life in that region has never been tranquil.
Israel on the map is the size of a pea.
Surrounded by nations and groups that
want it and all the citizens wiped off that map.
I might not have been exactly serious.

Nestled between Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt, war-weary Jews established a homeland in 1948 where they could finally live in safety and peace, far from those who seek to destroy them. Right?

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If the governments of Lebanon, Syria, etc. have lost the ability/desire to control their people, it's time for Israel to do it for them.
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i heared that they also attaked the airport today morning. I dont really know if its true though...
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I don't understand how the world can stand by and let a terrorist nation like Israel invade sovereign nations like Lebanon. They have killed nearly 100 civilians for 2 soldiers who were not even kidnapped by the Government of Lebanon. They think they have a god-given right to do as they please, how ignorant considering the atrocities that have occured against Jews in WWII. Bombing parts of the airport? Nice.

It is not one-sided, but terrorist groups and terrorist nations are two seperate entities. Israel has a responsibility to the international community to act in a measured and balanced way, which they clearly have foregone.
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isreal needs to be this agressive and i am in total support of the actions they take
its not like they are raging bloodthirsty war-seekers, but they are being forced to control a situation

and the un :retard: makes isreal out to be in the wrong

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I don't understand how the world can stand by and let a terrorist nation like Israel invade sovereign nations like Lebanon. They have killed nearly 100 civilians for 2 soldiers who were not even kidnapped by the Government of Lebanon. They think they have a god-given right to do as they please, how ignorant considering the atrocities that have occured against Jews in WWII. Bombing parts of the airport? Nice.

It is not one-sided, but terrorist groups and terrorist nations are two seperate entities. Israel has a responsibility to the international community to act in a measured and balanced way, which they clearly have foregone.

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a terrorist nation

What do you want Israel to do? Stand by while Lebanon is kiddnapping our soldiers and shooting Kassams?
Lebanon government should be responsible for the actions.

I wouldn't trust the reports about the citizens killed, I think they are false.

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Israel should do whatever it needs to. I have faith
in their actions. Based on how they have protected
themselves so far in their history. Negotations and
capitulation and 'peace talks' have resulted in what?
A smaller Israel, more violent neighbors, and more
emboldened terrorists supported by Iran and Syria
and other nations.

They were attacked. Their soldiers kidnapped. Citizens
hit. Do what you need to. Without Israel, without the
Palestinian problem, the other Arab nations will have to
face their real problems at home, and bye bye dictatorships
and despotic rule.

Iran gets heat from the world (sort of, UN style heat)
about their nuke program and conveniently, things then
heat up in Lebanon. Coincidence, I don't think so.

This allows Iran to change the subject for a while.

Now, there is a news story that they may move the
kidnapped soldiers to Iran from Lebanon. Bad move.

Try it.

Only legitimizes the move Israel would likely take anyway:
taking out the Iran nuke plants. Do it w/my blessing.


To hear France and Russia talk about a far too aggressive
response from Israel to the attacks it has taken...stupid.
If France or Russia were hit with 1/100th of the violence
Israel has been lately, they'd have done far more serious
things by now.
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Israel should do whatever it needs to. I have faith
in their actions. Based on how they have protected
themselves so far in their history. Negotations and
capitulation and 'peace talks' have resulted in what?
A smaller Israel, more violent neighbors, and more
emboldened terrorists supported by Iran and Syria
and other nations.

They were attacked. Their soldiers kidnapped. Citizens
hit. Do what you need to. Without Israel, without the
Palestinian problem, the other Arab nations will have to
face their real problems at home, and bye bye dictatorships
and despotic rule.

Iran gets heat from the world (sort of, UN style heat)
about their nuke program and conveniently, things then
heat up in Lebanon. Coincidence, I don't think so.

This allows Iran to change the subject for a while.

Now, there is a news story that they may move the
kidnapped soldiers to Iran from Lebanon. Bad move.

Try it.

Only legitimizes the move Israel would likely take anyway:
taking out the Iran nuke plants. Do it w/my blessing.


To hear France and Russia talk about a far too aggressive
response from Israel to the attacks it has taken...stupid.
If France or Russia were hit with 1/100th of the violence
Israel has been lately, they'd have done far more serious
things by now.
so true. Thank you

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