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USA liberation of Iraq - leave when the job is done, no sooner

Oh wait, it's an occupation.

No, it was the liberation of Iraq. The
same mission the U.S. Congress and President
William Jefferson Clinton made a formal American
policy in 1998.

Saddam is on trial. Out of power. Terrorists
are being killed and jailed. Which seems to
bother Amnesty International more than the
gouging out of the eyes of two unarmed
American soldiers.


Two American soldiers, unarmed, are
tortured, eyes gouged out, beheaded,
beaten beyond recognition, and we go
back to 'occupation'.

First, where is the outcry from the Geneva
Convention lovers, the U.N, Red Cross,
A.N.S.W.E.R., moveon.org, Michael Moore,
PFAW, ACLU on this torture? Their silence
is sickening. It's also telling. Dick Durbin
disgusted me w/his comments in the Senate.

Underwear on the head, or a dog barking
at someone too much is not torture. Prisoners
at Gitmo who get special religious meals,
prayer mats, Korans, Red Cross visits, and
who largely leave weighing more than they
went in, is not torture. I know there is an
entire faction of the world who thinks Bush
started terrorism. Wake up. The guys who did this
latest attack, were trained in the 90's in Afghanistan.
The place Clinton tossed a few bombs at, and
then forgot about for most of his term.

Afghanistan, the place Carter didn't do much about
when Russia went in, Iran, the place Carter didn't
do much about when they took hostages....that guy
did us a lot of good didn't he? Yet, he's one of the
top Bush critics. Perhaps, if he had done more than
wear a sweater, we wouldn't be where we are today.

2nd, the answer as to when the USA will leave
is the same as last year - when Iraq can control
the security 100% - with its military and police
forces. Which are taking over more and more
portions of the security details all over the nation.
It's not complicated to figure out. To leave any
sooner is to do what we did in Somalia. What is
happening in Somalia right now? Why is that?

Because we cut and ran, supported by the likes
of Murtha, too soon, and visibly in surrender.
When they've held 3 free elections, when the public
obviously does not widely support the terrorists
(do you see 35 million followers, no), when they
are growing economically, and when they are willing
to defend their own nation - albeit slowly, it's no
time to do a Somalia on them.

If the Iraqis continue to line up to join the police
and military in droves, as they are, despite the
attacks on them by terrorist cowards, we can
stand by them. Should it be faster? Yes, I think
it could be. But, they've done things at an amazing
pace so far in my view. Mistakes, sure. It's a war.
Nothing goes as it does on paper. But, they've
done far more right than wrong, and it's no time
to do what Clinton did in Somalia.

3rd, can we get someone to call out the terrorists
once in a while? Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore
call them freedom fighters, really. The men who
blow up senior citizens as they did yesterday, the
men who blow up school kids, the men who blow
up wedding parties, they are heroes? They've
killed more Muslims, destroyed more Korans, than
anything Bush or Blair have ordered.

Sorry if I'm annoyed, but, to NOT see more outrage
about the terrorists actions is sickening to me. They
are largely well educated, well financed men who do
this in what name? Allah? Freedom? They hate anyone
who is not what they are, and that includes you and me.
When will we figure that out as a society and free people.
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You should have posted that here :
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As of this morning, not one mention of
the torture and murder of two soldiers
in Iraq on the websites of Human Rights
Watch, Amnesty Int., ANSWER, etc.

Why?

It's not 'torture' they are against.
It's anything that can be seen as American
torture of anyone, even when it isn't torture,
or even when it isn't proven to be the case.
If it 'looks' like it or can be created into
a scenario that seems like it, they're against
American involvement in it.

But, bludgeon two young men and it's ho hum...
if they are American soldiers.


All the while, up until recently, we had soldiers
in shackles who were not even charged with
crimes at Haditha yet, and may never be.

Guilty as 'not charged' per Murtha and Durbin
and others. As we find out more about Haditha
and see it may not be what was reported at all...
wouldn't be the first time.



150,000 soldiers in Iraq.
Down from nearly 250,000 when it
started.

We have more soldiers 'occupying' Europe
and Asia than we do in Iraq. I'd be happy
to see them leave both of those places
entirely.
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i love you babe you speak the truth and point out liberal hypocrisy. I FUCKING LOVE YOU! although you are gonna be badrepped nonstop...
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Underwear on the head, or a dog barking
at someone too much is not torture. Prisoners
at Gitmo who get special religious meals,
prayer mats, Korans, Red Cross visits, and
who largely leave weighing more than they
went in, is not torture.
I hope you are just an other troll and that you don't actually think what you have said above.... because some of your posts are really sickening ...
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Why do your posts always have that fucked up format of really small paragraphs?
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No surprises to see where Samsung gets his news from - Fox.
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Oh wait, it's an occupation.

No, it was the liberation of Iraq. The
same mission the U.S. Congress and President
William Jefferson Clinton made a formal American
policy in 1998.

Saddam is on trial. Out of power. Terrorists
are being killed and jailed. Which seems to
bother Amnesty International more than the
gouging out of the eyes of two unarmed
American soldiers.


Two American soldiers, unarmed, are
tortured, eyes gouged out, beheaded,
beaten beyond recognition, and we go
back to 'occupation'.

First, where is the outcry from the Geneva
Convention lovers, the U.N, Red Cross,
A.N.S.W.E.R., moveon.org, Michael Moore,
PFAW, ACLU on this torture? Their silence
is sickening. It's also telling. Dick Durbin
disgusted me w/his comments in the Senate.

Underwear on the head, or a dog barking
at someone too much is not torture. Prisoners
at Gitmo who get special religious meals,
prayer mats, Korans, Red Cross visits, and
who largely leave weighing more than they
went in, is not torture. I know there is an
entire faction of the world who thinks Bush
started terrorism. Wake up. The guys who did this
latest attack, were trained in the 90's in Afghanistan.
The place Clinton tossed a few bombs at, and
then forgot about for most of his term.

Afghanistan, the place Carter didn't do much about
when Russia went in, Iran, the place Carter didn't
do much about when they took hostages....that guy
did us a lot of good didn't he? Yet, he's one of the
top Bush critics. Perhaps, if he had done more than
wear a sweater, we wouldn't be where we are today.

2nd, the answer as to when the USA will leave
is the same as last year - when Iraq can control
the security 100% - with its military and police
forces. Which are taking over more and more
portions of the security details all over the nation.
It's not complicated to figure out. To leave any
sooner is to do what we did in Somalia. What is
happening in Somalia right now? Why is that?

Because we cut and ran, supported by the likes
of Murtha, too soon, and visibly in surrender.
When they've held 3 free elections, when the public
obviously does not widely support the terrorists
(do you see 35 million followers, no), when they
are growing economically, and when they are willing
to defend their own nation - albeit slowly, it's no
time to do a Somalia on them.

If the Iraqis continue to line up to join the police
and military in droves, as they are, despite the
attacks on them by terrorist cowards, we can
stand by them. Should it be faster? Yes, I think
it could be. But, they've done things at an amazing
pace so far in my view. Mistakes, sure. It's a war.
Nothing goes as it does on paper. But, they've
done far more right than wrong, and it's no time
to do what Clinton did in Somalia.

3rd, can we get someone to call out the terrorists
once in a while? Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore
call them freedom fighters, really. The men who
blow up senior citizens as they did yesterday, the
men who blow up school kids, the men who blow
up wedding parties, they are heroes? They've
killed more Muslims, destroyed more Korans, than
anything Bush or Blair have ordered.

Sorry if I'm annoyed, but, to NOT see more outrage
about the terrorists actions is sickening to me. They
are largely well educated, well financed men who do
this in what name? Allah? Freedom? They hate anyone
who is not what they are, and that includes you and me.
When will we figure that out as a society and free people.
What problem do you have typing your posts the way normal people do, instead of writing in that column form like a poem. I don't know if it's only me by I find that style really annoying. Not to mention the amount of scrolling it generates.
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No surprises to see where Samsung gets his news from - Fox.
and it's no surprise you get your news from CNN aka DNC
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liberals have nothing to say they have been completely exposed (again) and it seems they have been stunned only thing they can think of is "I hate your writing style "
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and it's no surprise you get your news from CNN aka DNC
there is a whole world outside of the usa and many other political parties than the 2 american ones you know about.
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and it's no surprise you get your news from CNN aka DNC
Actually its the BBC, but little details such as The Truth arent important to you. You are Republican after all and will believe any bullshit your government tells you to believe.
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liberals have nothing to say they have been completely exposed (again) and it seems they have been stunned only thing they can think of is "I hate your writing style "
LOL.. No Ive always hated that poem format he uses and just thought it was time to call him up on it.

To be honest, I just cannot be bothered to 'debate' Samsungs post. Its not that I dont have a lot to challenge it on etc. Its just that when someone is so far gone down the track of brainwashing as Samsung, theres no point in arguing as noone will really change their opinion.

I just find it amusing to watch the crap spew forth from Fox news # 1. A good little government parrott. I bet he see's himself as 'patriotic' ROTFLMAO.
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Actually its the BBC, but little details such as The Truth arent important to you. You are Republican after all and will believe any bullshit your government tells you to believe.
and you'll believe anything a liberal main stream politician says it's all the same, sugar.
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