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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old Jun 19th, 2006, 09:52 AM Thread Starter
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University students and others :)

Hey,

I was just wondering as it is soemthing that has been commented upon where i work many times.

Because you pay huge fees now to get through uni do you autimatically assume you will pass??

personally i still think the majority off people feel its not a given - but then i also know some stuents who expect the degree for their money and dont want to do anything towards it. What are your opinions??

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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old Jun 19th, 2006, 10:09 AM
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I personnally find it outrageous that students have to pay so much to go through public education. I was lucky enough to go through at a time where i didn't have to pay any fees and did my postgrad in the UK where fees were paid for me by my department thankfully.
I don't think a degree is a given and it certainly shouldn't be a given, what value would have a course where people just need to pay to get it although it's the case in private courses I don't agree with it. Selection by money rather than anything else, it's becoming more and more like that unfortunately...

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Over here public education is free in most cases.
And getting a degree is not easy by any means.

Money can get you to a uni in some cases and not by taking anyone's place if they have the grades to get in.
And no money in the world can get you a degree or even to pass an exam.

I'm in the middle of an exam period and let me tell you it's hard.

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The system in the UK is better than say the US. Just because you come from a poor background doesn't mean you can't go to the 'best' Universities - Oxford, Cambridge etc. There's a lot of support for low income families. Loads of people in my sixth form are off to Uni in September that have very poor parents... they get grants from the government and University's, that cover tuitition fees/some living costs etc. If you work hard enough there's nothing that stops you getting a really good education.

Yes, it's expensive and you have to pay a lot, but that's tough shit. Everyone here is entitled to student loans, that cost the government a lot of money. For every £100 you borrow they pay the £40 interest that comes with it.

Plus everyone is treated the same when it comes to admissions. No matter how much money you have.

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post #5 of 37 (permalink) Old Jun 19th, 2006, 11:40 AM
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in my case, i'm lucky to have my parents pay for me.

and yes, i am never worried about failing cuz i put in the work and more.

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Well i think if you or you parents are paying that much money for you to go to uni you should have to put the work in to pass your degree at least. I'm doing ok at the moment i'm on a 2.1 but could easily slip to a 2.2 if i don't work a bit harder next year.

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since we are talking about university...

can u guys tell me what course are u studying in specific...diploma in wat? degree in wat?....

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Hells no. What my uni does is show the breakdowns of the grades given out in the classes you took so you can see how many people passed failed ect... And there have been bobo classes that ive taken such as INTE290 which is basically learning how to use microsoft office. There were like 800 people to take the class and 100 people failed it. I have yet to take a class where no one failed. One of my classes last semester had a 20% fail rate. So i don't believe i will just pass by just paying my fees.
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I studied Biology for 4 years and all I had to pay was €88 a year (But that's rather exceptional, normally you pay about €300 I think, which is very doable) Love the Belgian system

For 4 x €88 you can't by grades I'm afraid
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I go to an university in the US, and tuition is close to 20,000 - 25,000 dollars / year and that's for undergrad only. And no, people (well most anyways) do not and WILL NOT pass unless they put in the work.
Also, it is true that tuition in Europe and basically everywhere else is a lot cheaper and that poor students have access to more elite universities, however, it is more cut throat in the US, as only those who have worked hard enough get scholarships and don't expect to get a free pass through school. It's true that it is nowadays hard to afford to go to college/universities, but most people work through school. I guess at least to me, it is an enticement to do well in school so that I can end up paying all those accumulated debts...

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I studied Biology for 4 years and all I had to pay was €88 a year (But that's rather exceptional, normally you pay about €300 I think, which is very doable) Love the Belgian system

For 4 x €88 you can't by grades I'm afraid
WTF really?

Here in the netherlands you have to pay like 1500 + 500 for your books
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WTF really?

Here in the netherlands you have to pay like 1500 + 500 for your books
Yeah well, I'm not sure about the €300, but it's €500 max.
This year I'm doing a one year Master after Master Journalism, which is a lot more expensive than any other Master (except for some international/business/blah/don't know specials ); it cost me €900
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Yeah well, I'm not sure about the €300, but it's €500 max.
This year I'm doing a one year Master after Master Journalism, which is a lot more expensive than any other Master (except for some international/business/blah/don't know specials ); it cost me €900
I hate you. The cost of your Masters is the cost of my books for one semester.

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I had to pay 21€ so
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Yeah well, I'm not sure about the €300, but it's €500 max.
This year I'm doing a one year Master after Master Journalism, which is a lot more expensive than any other Master (except for some international/business/blah/don't know specials ); it cost me €900
I always wondered why a friend of mine moved back to Belgium to go to a university there after we graduated high school several years ago. Heh....so that's why eh...

Anyways, I've been lucky to have been going to college here in the states on a full ride.
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