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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old May 14th, 2006, 06:39 AM Thread Starter
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Someone please help me settle this bet about grammar.

I have been arguing for months with a friend of mine about this very simple piece of grammar:

Is it You and I or is it You and Me?

I argue that in casual conversation, You and Me is correct while my friend says it's never proper.

Would someone with some damn knowledge of English please settle this bet for me once and for all?
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i say whatever the fuck i want to i don't give a shit what friends think of my grammar.
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Actually you are both somewhat correct. If the phrase is I go to the store, then the correct grammer you and i go to the store. But if the singular proper grammer for the phrase is me, than the plural proper grammer would be "you and me"!

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I have been arguing for months with a friend of mine about this very simple piece of grammar:

Is it You and I or is it You and Me?

I argue that in casual conversation, You and Me is correct while my friend says it's never proper.

Would someone with some damn knowledge of English please settle this bet for me once and for all?
I believe proper is always "You and I", never "You and me" but I'm not an expert

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I think that you are both correct.

However some common errors are... for example... "He gave you and I some cigarettes", that's incorrect. It should be "He gave you and me some cigarettes".
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Actually you are both somewhat correct. If the phrase is I go to the store, then the correct grammer you and i go to the store. But if the singular proper grammer for the phrase is me, than the plural proper grammer would be "you and me"!
Well there you go

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Well there you go
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I have been arguing for months with a friend of mine about this very simple piece of grammar:

Is it You and I or is it You and Me?

I argue that in casual conversation, You and Me is correct while my friend says it's never proper.

Would someone with some damn knowledge of English please settle this bet for me once and for all?

"Is it you or I" is correct because you need a pronoun in the nominative case after verb forms of "to be"


if you mean when should you use "you and me" or "you and I" :

You and I: if you and the other person are the subject of the sentence or as a predicate nominative

e.g. You and I are going to the store tomorrow
Was it you or I who got a phone call this morning

You and me: if you and the other person are any kind of object (direct object, indirect object, object of preposition)

e.g. He gave the ball to you and me (indirect object)
Let's keep this between you and me (object of preposition)
He put you and me up for auction at the charity event. (direct object)

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"You and I" is technically the correct way of saying. But "You and me" is fairly popular these days anyway.

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"Is it you or I" is correct because you need a pronoun in the nominative case after verb forms of "to be"


if you mean when should you use "you and me" or "you and I" :

You and I: if you and the other person are the subject of the sentence or as a predicate nominative

e.g. You and I are going to the store tomorrow
Was it you or I who got a phone call this morning

You and me: if you and the other person are any kind of object (direct object, indirect object, object of preposition)

e.g. He gave the ball to you and me (indirect object)
Let's keep this between you and me (object of preposition)
He gave put you and me up for auction at the charity event. (direct object)
Yes this is right. If confused always drop the "you and". And see if the sentence still works.

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Yes this is right. If confused always drop the "you and". And see if the sentence still works.

YES! CORRECT! and BW was CORRECT too!!
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Of course I'm correct. I'm a fucking grammar whiz

that being said, do as I say; not as I do
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Yes this is right. If confused always drop the "you and". And see if the sentence still works.
That's how my english teacher from grammar school taught it

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Of course I'm correct. I'm a fucking grammar whiz

that being said, do as I say not as I do
Good job with those examples

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