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Agatha Christie wrote a book called Ten Little ******s?

Some of the stuff may be seen as offensive but the rap albums didn't bother me.
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Some of the stuff may be seen as offensive but the rap albums didn't bother me.
Of course not. You were desensitized by that time.
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Of course not. You were desensitized by that time.
So, did the rap albums displaying the word "nigga" or when they use the word nigga in their songs, bother you?
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So, did the rap albums displaying the word "nigga" or when they use the word nigga in their songs, bother you?
Yes and yes. Our community can't have it both ways. Either it's offensive or it isn't. It can't be both. From this perspective there is nothing endearing about the N-word.
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Agatha Christie wrote a book called Ten Little ******s?

Some of the stuff may be seen as offensive but the rap albums didn't bother me.
No, it was called "Ten Little Indians". Now called "And Then There Were None". It's an awesome book too LOL, but has nothing to do with indians.

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I read a text once on how Agatha Christie's book was really offensive to some people

Very interesting to see how the word is actually just a capitalist expression!

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Yes and yes. Our community can't have it both ways. Either it's offensive or it isn't. It can't be both. From this perspective there is nothing endearing about the N-word.
Does reality enter into this analysis?

Reality seems to indicate that people can have it both ways, can be offended depending on the context of the use and therefor it can be both.

And its not just limited to blacks, all ethnic groups say things to and about themselves that they would be offended by if an outsider said the same thing.

Its human nature.
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Does reality enter into this analysis?

Reality seems to indicate that people can have it both ways, can be offended depending on the context of the use and therefor it can be both.

And its not just limited to blacks, all ethnic groups say things to and about themselves that they would be offended by if an outsider said the same thing.

Its human nature.
That’s the Catch-22 for our community. Some of us despise it and some of us embrace it and some of us are on the fence. Either way, from this vantage point, it’s not a word that is beneficial to anyone on any level (read: you're not doing yourself any favors by calling yourself or someone else an N-word). As I read somewhere, you don’t hear Puerto Ricans saying “what’s up my Spic” or the Chinese community addressing each other as “my chink”…
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with dates and context this really is more mis-information than anything else. not to mention major gaps in dates when the images where produced.

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No, it was called "Ten Little Indians". Now called "And Then There Were None". It's an awesome book too LOL, but has nothing to do with indians.
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nope. the book was originally called ten little ******s. so yes Agatha Christie did write a book called ten little ******s.

not only that it was adapted for film a number of times, including by christie herself, as And Then There Were None in 1945 and again in 1974; and also filmed as Ten Little Indians in 1959 (for tv), 1965, 1974, 1989 and as Ten Little ******s in 1987.

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with dates and context this really is more mis-information than anything else. not to mention major gaps in dates when the images where produced.
I meant to do that but I couldn’t be bothered. The images range from the 1880’s to 2002.
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That’s the Catch-22 for our community. Some of us despise it and some of us embrace it and some of us are on the fence. Either way, from this vantage point, it’s not a word that is beneficial to anyone on any level (read: you're not doing yourself any favors by calling yourself or someone else an N-word). As I read somewhere, you don’t hear Puerto Ricans saying “what’s up my Spic” or the Chinese community addressing each other as “my chink”…
I've seen Puerto Ricans refer to each other as spics and I had a Chinese American team mate who used the word chink all the time.

There's a difference between Puerto Ricans on the corner talking shit and the head of some Puerto Rican - American organization; once again, context.

I'm in no way saying that the use of the dreaded "N-word" should be endorsed, ratified and given the gold seal of approval - but my friends of every ethnic stripe have used slurs towards their own people. Its more of a professional/public life v informal amongst friends/private life.

Most young Jews, I know use Hebe all the time now, its not even a slur any more from their perspective...of course I'm sure if some WASP industrialist referred to them as Hebes, they'd get pissed and the ADL would do their thing.

Once again, context.
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I've seen Puerto Ricans refer to each other as spics and I had a Chinese American team mate who use the word chink all the time.

There's a difference between Puerto Ricans on the corner talking shit and the head of some Puerto Rican - American organization; once again, context.

I'm in no way saying that the use of the dreaded "N-word" should be endorsed, ratified and given the gold seal of approval - but my friends of every ethnic stripe have used slurs towards their own people. Its more of a professional/public life v informal amongst friends/private life.

Most young Jews, I know use Hebe all the time now, its not even a slur any more from their perspective...of course I'm sure if some WASP industrialist referred to them as Hebes, they'd get pissed and the ADL would do their thing.

Once again, context.
I get it. The difference, though, is that “Hebe” and “Chink” (and "Nip", "Flip", "Wop" and "Dago") don’t consistently have a negative visual to accompany the epithet; the N-word does.
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In other words, Kiwifan, some faction of our population would have some trouble conjuring up an image of a “Hebe” but ask them to describe an “N-Word” and, well, you know…
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Agatha Christie wrote a book called Ten Little ******s?

Some of the stuff may be seen as offensive but the rap albums didn't bother me.
ya, you can get it here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...Fencoding=UTF8

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