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Stray bullet kills toddler in car seat

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Stray bullet kills toddler in car seat
Mother begs police to find shooter

NEW YORK (AP) -- Sobbing and clutching her son's toy, the mother of a 2-year-old killed when a stray bullet pierced their minivan on Easter urged police to find her son's killer.

"I want him to wake up every day and see my face and hear my voice and see my son's picture every day," Joanne Sanabria told reporters.

David Pacheco Jr., dressed in his Easter best, was strapped in a car seat Sunday afternoon as the family drove through the Bronx a few miles from home.

"I was driving and I heard the gunshot and I heard my son screaming," Sanabria, 28, said Monday. "God only knows how much I wish that bullet would have hit me."

Her daughters, ages 8 and 11, and her sister's family were also in the vehicle but unharmed.

According to police, the shots were fired as two groups of men argued.

An off-duty emergency medical technician, Angelo Cruz, heard the gunfire and ran to help the toddler, but the shooter disappeared.

The little boy had been struck in the chest and was pronounced dead about 45 minutes later.

His father, David Pacheco, said Monday he owes his thanks to Cruz. He said the resuscitation effort gave him time to see his son alive one last time.

Grieving family and friends described the boy as energetic and always smiling. "He was a happy kid," his uncle Victor Castillo said.
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It's these kind of things that make me want guns outlawed very badly.
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that i so fucked up!!! ugh!!! and to think these are people out there who say guns dont kill people, that its no different than having a knife at home... monsters... they are the ones who make things like this happen as often as they do!

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what a horrible thing to happen to that family.

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It's these kind of things that make me want guns outlawed very badly.
A firearm is an unconscious, unthinking tool made of dead metal. It does not work unless there is a finger on the trigger. You want justice? You want this to stop? You better address the underlying problems and leave the inanimate object alone.
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that i so fucked up!!! ugh!!! and to think these are people out there who say guns dont kill people, that its no different than having a knife at home... monsters... they are the ones who make things like this happen as often as they do!
Meh, unless the U.S. can do something drastic to secure it's border, gun violence will be a problem, illegal or not. And just banning guns isn't really the answer anyway. If there are more jobs and more opportunities, then there's less likely to be crime.
There's actually a town not far from here that made it a city ordinance everyone had to own a gun and the town has a 0% crime rate LOL. Of course it's probably only got about 1000 people.
But if you get outside of a big city, people use guns for what they were meant for and you don't have such a negative view of them.

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A firearm is an unconscious, unthinking tool made of dead metal. It does not work unless there is a finger on the trigger. You want justice? You want this to stop? You better address the underlying problems and leave the inanimate object alone.
Stop the BS, Jack. If they didn't have guns, they might have had a fistfight, or @ worst tried to stab eachother. (I'm sure one or both sides in this urban "OK Corral" felt that the other did them wrong). And B4 you trot out the usual NRA BS about (NYC, like many cities) having a ban on guns, one doesn't get automatically searched crossing a city or state line in a car.
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A firearm is an unconscious, unthinking tool made of dead metal. It does not work unless there is a finger on the trigger. You want justice? You want this to stop? You better address the underlying problems and leave the inanimate object alone.
So while we figure out what these "underlying problems" are, we just happen to let these people roam around the streets with a gun in their pockets and expect them to show self-restraint
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Stop the BS, Jack. If they didn't have guns, they might have had a fistfight, or @ worst tried to stab eachother. (I'm sure one or both sides in this urban "OK Corral" felt that the other did them wrong). And B4 you trot out the usual NRA BS about (NYC, like many cities) having a ban on guns, one doesn't get automatically searched crossing a city or state line in a car.
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A law is useless unless you can enforce it. With the ease at which illegal firearms could be smuggled into the US and sold on the black market, there is no way to enforce gun control.

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Meh, unless the U.S. can do something drastic to secure it's border, gun violence will be a problem, illegal or not. And just banning guns isn't really the answer anyway. If there are more jobs and more opportunities, then there's less likely to be crime.
There's actually a town not far from here that made it a city ordinance everyone had to own a gun and the town has a 0% crime rate LOL. Of course it's probably only got about 1000 people.
But if you get outside of a big city, people use guns for what they were meant for and you don't have such a negative view of them.
what a load of crap. nambla logic at its finest. and is sad that this is the kind of crap that lead to that boy dying they way he did.

he was so cute. his mother appeared in the spanish language papers of the city.

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The bastard will only get charged with Manslaughter if caught now also so he wont get the full sentence for murder i would assume

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