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The Most Homophobic Place on Earth?

The Most Homophobic Place on Earth?

Crimes against gays are mounting in Jamaica and across the Caribbean
By TIM PADGETT/KINGSTON

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...182991,00.html



Brian wears sunglasses to hide his gray and lifeless left eye—damaged, he says, by kicks and blows with a board from Jamaican reggae star Buju Banton. Brian, 44, is gay, and Banton, 32, is an avowed homophobe whose song Boom Bye-Bye decrees that gays "haffi dead" ("have to die"). In June 2004, Brian claims, Banton and some toughs burst into his house near Banton's Kingston recording studio and viciously beat him and five other men. After complaints from international human-rights groups, Banton was finally charged last fall, but in January a judge dismissed the case for lack of evidence. It was a bitter decision for Brian, who lost his landscaping business after the attack and is fearful of giving his last name. "I still go to church," he says as he sips a Red Stripe beer. "Every Sunday I ask why this happened to me."
Though familiar to Americans primarily as a laid-back beach destination, Jamaica is hardly idyllic. The country has the world's highest murder rate. And its rampant violence against gays and lesbians has prompted human-rights groups to confer another ugly distinction: the most homophobic place on earth.

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Banton's lyrics are hardly unique among reggae artists today. Another popular artist, Elephant Man (O'Neil Bryant, 29) declares in one song, "When you hear a lesbian getting raped/ It's not our fault ... Two women in bed/ That's two Sodomites who should be dead." Another, Bounty Killer (Rodney Price, 33), urges listeners to burn "Mister Fagoty" and make him "wince in agony."
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Awful! Why would anyone want to listen to reggae anyway? But that's besides the point, the violence is deplorable.




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How could they not like even lesbians

But anyway, this distinction doesn't mean anything. People will just ignore it and go there for vacation anyway. It's just sad that nothing can be done about it.

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Jamaica seems less much idyllic now...

This can't last. This misery can't last. I must remember that and try to control myself. Nothing lasts really. Neither happiness nor despair. Not even life lasts very long. There'll come a time in the future when I shan't mind about this anymore, when I can look back and say quite peacefully and cheerfully how silly I was. No, no, I don't want that time to come ever. I want to remember every minute, always, always to the end of my days.
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Aruba Jamaica ooo I wanna take you
Bermuda Bahama come on pretty mama
Key Largo Montego baby why don't we go
Jamaica

Off the Florida Keys
There's a place called Kokomo
That's where you wanna go to get away from it all

Bodies in the sand
Tropical drink melting in your hand
We'll be falling in love
To the rhythm of a steel drum band
Down in Kokomo

Aruba Jamaica ooo I wanna take you
To Bermuda Bahama come on pretty mama
Key Largo, Montego baby why don't we go

Ooo I wanna take you down to Kokomo
We'll get there fast
And then we'll take it slow
That's where we wanna go
Way down to Kokomo

To Martinique, that Monserrat mystique

We'll put out to sea
And we'll perfect our chemistry
By and by we'll defy a little bit of gravity

Afternoon delight
Cocktails and moonlit nights
That dreamy look in your eye
Give me a tropical contact high
Way down in Kokomo

Aruba, Jamaica ooo I wanna take you
To Bermuda, Bahama come on pretty mama
Key Largo, Montego baby why don't we go

Ooo I wanna take you down to Kokomo
We'll get there fast
And then we'll take it slow
That's where we wanna go
Way down to Kokomo

Port Au Prince I wanna catch a glimpse

Everybody knows
A little place like Kokomo
Now if you wanna go
And get away from it all
Go down to Kokomo

Aruba, Jamaica ooo I wanna take you
To Bermuda, Bahama come on pretty mama
Key Largo, Montego baby why don't we go

Ooo I wanna take you down to Kokomo
We'll get there fast
And then we'll take it slow
That's where we wanna go
Way down to Kokomo

Aruba, Jamaica ooo I wanna take you
To Bermuda, Bahama come on pretty mama
Key Largo, Montego baby why don't we go

Ooo I wanna take you down to Kokomo
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^^ OMG I can't beieve you posted that song.............. I was just listening to Ben Kweller's cover of it. Let me find the link............

here it is (4th one on the page)
http://mookamotel.blogspot.com/2006/03/cerca.html
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Is it still illegal for same sex couples to get a hotel room in Jamaica? I don't condone the hate but Rastafarianism doesn't believe in Homosexuality and the rest of the pop. is mostly Christian so add that all up it's a bad time for gays.

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i'm kinda surprised there are not more discussions about this, given that there are so many gay people on this board.

i would describe myself as a fan of jamaican music (it's should be called dancehall, not reggae), so i am aware of what kind of lyrics are there in some songs. i wouldn't say the music is really the root of the problem, though, but it reflects what's going on in the society (kind of like hip hop in the us). however, it sure as hell does not help the situation.

it always annoys me when that happens at a dance - they start playing blatantly homophobic songs and the people dance happily without realising the content of the lyrics. patois is not easy to understand if you're not familiar with it.

more worryingly some fans of jamaican music do take jamaican culture seriously and adopt the same values, including homophobia. it's a pity because otherwise it is a very vibrant music scene.
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Wow. Those song lyrics are fairly depressing. I'm all for acceptance of cultural differences, but inciting others to violence against gays isn't a "cultural difference," it's just wrong. I suppose if the rest of the world cared enough, it'd be easy to ruin the Jamaican economy by boycotting vacations there. But that's obviously wishful thinking...

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Is it still illegal for same sex couples to get a hotel room in Jamaica? I don't condone the hate but Rastafarianism doesn't believe in Homosexuality and the rest of the pop. is mostly Christian so add that all up it's a bad time for gays.
It cracks me up when I hear about people
but especially "Christians" spout hate of any
kind towards gay people. :retard:
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It cracks me up when I hear about people
but especially "Christians" spout hate of any
kind towards gay people. :retard:
Hilarious isn't it.
I'd love to buy some island paradise and give people a questionnaire as they arrive and if it reveals homophobia then burn them at the stake.
Seriously though I won't be going to Jamaica. If not for tourism they'd probably starve to death because it's not like those lazy idiots would actually work for a living.

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Seriously though I won't be going to Jamaica. If not for tourism they'd probably starve to death because it's not like those lazy idiots would actually work for a living.
Do you actually know any Jamaicans?
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Awful! Why would anyone want to listen to reggae anyway? But that's besides the point, the violence is deplorable.
Don't let a few fools destroy your entire outlook. Bob Marley will always be a legend. He is ONE reason why I listen to reggae. Reggae is beautiful music!!

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