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Immigrants rally for rights in US marches

Immigrants rally for rights in US marches

By Christine Kearney 26 minutes ago


Thousands of immigrants and their supporters chanted, blew whistles and waved flags from dozens of Latin American countries on Saturday as they marched across the Brooklyn Bridge in support of immigrant rights.

A festive crowd of more than 10,000 people shouted "We are all Americans," and carried banners in Spanish and English saying "We are not criminals" and "Immigrant rights are human rights" in their trek from Brooklyn across the East River to Manhattan.

"We are workers not terrorists," said Augustin Rangel, 40, who came from Mexico four years ago and has two jobs as a painter and bar worker. "We work hard for this country and for our families. We want the same rights as everyone else."

The New York protest was the largest of several held across the country in the Los Angeles area and other cities.

The rally point in New York was the square outside the Federal Plaza building in Manhattan where immigrants line up on weekdays to have federal officials process their visas. On Saturday, it was a colorful sea of flags and resembled a street festival with children, parents, and senior citizens.

Camella Pinkney-Price of the Hispanic Evangelical Churches said the march was held to protest an immigration bill that would criminalize anyone who helped any of the nation's estimated 11 million undocumented workers.

"We want to say that we deserve to be legal," she said. "Why are people called illegal immigrants when they have shed blood, sweat and tears to work in this country?"

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The flashpoint for protests in the past several weeks has been debate in Congress on an overhaul of immigration laws that could toughen enforcement and tighten border security.

The House of Representatives passed a bill last December that defines illegal aliens as felons and calling for the construction of a 700-mile (1,120-km) fence along the U.S.-Mexico border.

The Senate is debating an alternative that provides a way for temporary workers as well as illegal immigrants to eventually become U.S. citizens, as well as toughen workplace enforcement of immigration rules. It also creates a new guest worker program pushed by President George W. Bush.

Jose Richards, who came to the United States in the 1960s and remains here legally, carried a Jamaican flag as a banner that said "Leave no immigrant behind."

"I do not support the part of the bill that makes undocumented immigrants felons," he said. "We are not criminals."

Julio Diaz, 30, an illegal immigrant cafeteria worker who came to the United States at age 17 from Veracruz, Mexico, marched with his wife and two children, ages 7 and 8, who carried American flags.

"We came today to support legalizing immigrants like me," he said. "We don't need amnesty but we would like temporary visas so we don't risk our lives crossing the border to visit our families.

"I pay taxes and I work hard."

In Costa Mesa, California, about 40 miles south of Los Angeles, an estimated 1,500 people turned out amid wind and rain to protest the bill and praise the contributions of immigrants.

Javier Bonales, an official with the local arm of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, a powerful union of transportation and freight workers, pushed for a boycott.

"On May 1 we are planning a great American boycott, he said. "For one day, we will just not go to work and not buy anything. We will stay home and we will show our support for all these workers."

The mostly young and Latino crowd marched around city hall, waving U.S. and Mexican flags. School buses dropped off loads of demonstrators while a heavy police presence kept an eye on the boisterous, but peaceful, event.

Among the more provocative signs carried by the demonstrators was one that said "This is our continent, you stupid Americans."

(Additional reporting by Aarthi Sivaraman in Costa Mesa)
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I understand why they would be upset, although I don't agree with them but is it a prudent choice to say you're devoted to America but sport a Mexican flag or have signs saying stupid Americans?
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I understand why they would be upset, although I don't agree with them but is it a prudent choice to say you're devoted to America but sport a Mexican flag or have signs saying stupid Americans?


Well the thing is, if they're illegal, they have no right to call themselves American

What I don't understand is, they know they're illegal, yet they ask for rights? And I don't get, if they ARE illegal, why isn't the government deporting the marchers

But anyway, the government is only doing WHAT'S RIGHT. This isn't about racism, it's about PRINCIPLE.

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If it was a bunch of blondies coming over, no one would care.
Exactly

In the UK, the newspapers are always going on about our "immigration problems" as regards Africans, Asians and Eastern Europeans when in reality the most common groups of illegal immigrants are Australians, with Americans not far behind. Nobody cares that they come in.

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Those immigrants are retarded.

They should be glad that they're not rounded up put on a boat and sent home.
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Those immigrants are retarded.

They should be glad that they're not rounded up put on a boat and sent home.
America is made up of people who were at one time immigrants

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yeah but we didn't dig a tunnell evading a fence to get here
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If it was a bunch of blondies coming over, no one would care.
They'd care to an extent but blondies wouldn't pollute the population, so they wouldn't care to such an extent.

The more these illegals come in, the more they breed and the more they influence the demographics of the nation, which pollutes the protestant white majority.
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yeah but we didn't dig a tunnell evading a fence to get here
No, but you drove the Native Americans off their land and took it for your own

Not that I've got anything against Americans in general, I'm just saying that its quite hard to judge seen as how most Americans are at least descended from immigrants.

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yeah but we didn't dig a tunnell evading a fence to get here
Are you sure? From what I know unlike canadians you guys did'nt even sign any treaties with the natives. Just walked in one day and drove them off
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They'd care to an extent but blondies wouldn't pollute the population, so they wouldn't care to such an extent.

The more these illegals come in, the more they breed and the more they influence the demographics of the nation, which pollutes the protestant white majority.
So according to you mexicans are "polluting" your population?
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Well if they came over and didn't pay their taxes, then yeah people would care.

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Immigrants pay taxes, they get deducted taxes they can never reclaim

Every time they get sick and can't go to a hospital they pay for being undocumented.

I just wish people would understand how much of an impact they have on the U.S. If they aren't paying taxes they sure are keeping the country afloat.

People need to understand that it is really the fault of both sides. The U.S. for not providing a way for workers to come here when they have been clearly needed for a long time. Overseas workers often do break the law but it is more for necessity rather than want.

All of the Sept 11 hijackers entered the country legally so the whole thing about homeland security sometimes appears to be a slippery slope sometimes.

My parents are immigrants. I don't have the my parents had to walk a month , got caught three times, got robbed, before they made it through story but I can certainly sympathize because my friends have these stories. In a way I almost would like to see all the undocumented people get deported so then everyone will learn their lesson when oranges are $5.00 a pound, lettuce $2.00 a head, yards starting to become overgrown etc. Restaurants assigning 1 waiter to 20 tables etc.

By the way some people talk you'd think you have undocumented immigrants coming in here and kicking ceo's out of jobs etc. Who is really a better hire someone who speaks english, and is documented or someone who doesn't speak english and is undocumented? I think the first choice but Oh. wait they pick the "mexicans" because they are willing to work for so much less" Well, who's damn fault is that? the employers who are slick enough to only pay them $3.00 or $4.00 an hour for jobs that go sometimes for over $10.00 an hour.

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There is no problem with immigrating as long as you do it legally which they are not, they aren't paying taxes and overloading our hospitals. They need to go about things the right way and then everything will be dandy, but they're not so its end of story. And the kids are rallying around my city and ive talked to some and they don't really know what the new laws are they are just looking for a way off of school

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