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Bode Miller and Olympic hype

Bode Miller has been the face of NBC and Nike's Olympics campaign based on the fact that he was the champion of the ski season last winter and he had the potential to win 5 gold medals here. Plus, he had the "bad boy" personality that is great for marketing.

Well, he placed 5th on the downhill and was DQ from the combined event. He also went into games controversially after the 60 minutes interview where he alluded to skiing while hung over. Plus, he did nothing in the ski season, which some people say was a result of him caring more about partying than training.

Now NBC and Nike are scared he will be the "Andy Mojo" of the Olympics. Ratings are already down due to stars not living up to the hype (ie Michelle Kwan, Apollo, US ski team overall, etc) with only Shaun White living up to the expectations.

My own opinion is that like the theme of the movie "Match Point" luck plays a very big factor in these competitions. You work hard and then, like Bode and Raiche, ski between gates while going so fast, or you win gold because a more talented athlete goes down (ie Ligetey in the combined).

It's all a game--if you don't talk with the media, then you're branded as sullen or negative and may lose getting the spotlight on your sport. However, if you do play the media game, then if you don't perform to expectations you become a joke.

So, any thoughts as we finish out the first week of the Olympics?

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tennis fool! go mtf, lol

anyway, bode miller... very ironic. lol. ya kinda have to laugh. definitely the andy mojo of the olympics! like the match point analogy! bode--stop partying!! eating quesidillas... typing on one hand... sorry for choppy sentences

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tennis fool! go mtf, lol

anyway, bode miller... very ironic. lol. ya kinda have to laugh. definitely the andy mojo of the olympics! like the match point analogy! bode--stop partying!! eating quesidillas... typing on one hand... sorry for choppy sentences
I think Bode is somewhat like an American Marat Safin, but with the Andy Roddick hype.

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so then you're a fan?? lol

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I honestly think he gets what he deserves. He thinks he can win easily even if he doesn't train real hard, gets drunk, stays out until 2am. Sure dude, maybe you can do that in World Cups. Now see where it gets you at the Olympics. The athletes who train hard get the win. End of the story.
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I honestly think he gets what he deserves. He thinks he can win easily even if he doesn't train real hard, gets drunk, stays out until 2am. Sure dude, maybe you can do that in World Cups. Now see where it gets you at the Olympics. The athletes who train hard get the win. End of the story.
That's true, most of the time. But Ted Ligetey won gold and he was like, completely out of it after the downhill. Raiche was the fav and a hard worker, but he suffered the same fate as Bode, splitting a gate.

Like Marat Safin often says--it's luck.

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He's not doing that bad. Downhill and slalom are not his best events. His best shot will be in the Super G. Alpine skiing is a sport with a lot of depth (as opposed to speed skating for exemple), with 15 to 20 athletes who can climb on the podium in each races. So it's really hard to win a lot of medals. Plus, Bode is not having a very good year.
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ive seen heaps of stars, world champs, event favs that have missed out on medals at turin.

the winter sports seems to be real hard for the fav's to win because a lot of the time it comes down to 100th/1000th of a second, or missing a single shot in the biathalon etc...

bode isnt the only one to have lucked out.
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ive seen heaps of stars, world champs, event favs that have missed out on medals at turin.

the winter sports seems to be real hard for the fav's to win because a lot of the time it comes down to 100th/1000th of a second, or missing a single shot in the biathalon etc...

bode isnt the only one to have lucked out.
Yes, but the media here makes it sound as if it is UNACCEPTABLE to not win Gold if you CAN win gold.

I'm interested knowing how the media of other countries cover dissapointments.

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Just watched the "Olympic Moments" where Jimmy Roberts covered the woman who fell and spent a night in the hospital and then skiied and finished 8th. He said the point of the Olympics is sometimes defininig your own expectations of triumph.

That's bullshit. NBC has reminded us time and again that anything less that GOLD is unacceptable. Lisa Kildrow (I think that's her name) will not be remembered after this Olympics. She won't have her name on the Wheaties box.

I still don't get if you make a massive mistake like a fall on the downhill how that is different from almost falling, but surviving practice run and still placing 8th.

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It's basically the same thing in Canada. The media focus way too much on the disappointment. I don't like it. There's too much negativity.

Basically if you finish 3rd you're a hero but if you're 4th you're a disgrace, even if it's only by 0.01 second.

I guess when you are used to having really big success in sport (in Canada it's all relative), the medias have to create a lot of hype to interest the public.
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I'm interested knowing how the media of other countries cover dissapointments.
australian tv doesnt expect aussies to win medals at the winter olympics.

at the summer games, australia's bode miller/michelle kwan is ian thorpe/grant hacket and they always win heaps of gold, so i dont know how australian tv would cover it if they lost.
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from what i've watched of the olympics it just seems like there is soo much luck involved in a lot of these events, i know that's true for any sport but somehow it's just been so much more noticeable this winter olympics than in the summer olympics or some other events.

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australian tv doesnt expect aussies to win medals at the winter olympics.

and at the summer olympics the good news storys (aussies winning gold) take most of coverage and the people that miss out on medals barely get a mention.

at the summer games, australia's bode miller/michelle kwan is ian thorpe/grant hacket and they always win heaps of gold, so i dont know how australian tv would cover it if they lost.
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