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Please Pray For The People of New Orleans, Biloxi, Slidell, Gulfport, et al

Here is what is known today:

1. The water continues to rise, as the 17th street levy was breached near the center city two blocks long, as water from Lake Ponchartrain continues to pour in.

2. 80% of New Orleans, Orleans Parish underwater. In some places, over 20 feet of water. Metairie, Kenner and Jefferson Parish is completely submerged. Over 40,000 homes in St. Bernard Parish has been completely destroyed and the Parish is submerged.

The less affected areas are the New Orleans Central Business district, Uptown and French Quarter (albeit, drier and less damage than other parts of the city).

3. New Orleans East is 100% submerged and totally destroyed. The twin spans (Interstate 10) which is the only major connection between New Orleans proper and the New Orleans East suburbs (heading toward MS, Fl, etc.) is totally destroyed. There is no longer an I-10 heading east out of New Orleans.

The lower 9th ward is completely devistated and destroyed...flooded.

4. The director of FEMA in New Orleans has said it is the worst devistation of a major metropolitan area he has seen as a result of natural disaster.

5. The Mayor of New Orleans has said that power will not be restored for at least 4-6 weeks. There is no drinking water in New Orleans and surrounding parishes.

6. The Mayor of New Orleans has said that widespread and catastropic loss of life has occured, as reported by Fire, Police and National Guard troops who have witnessed dead bodies floating in flood waters. It could take weeks to recover all the bodies.

7. The National Guard is in the process of setting up temporary morgues.

Of the people who stayed in New Orleans during Katrina in the face of mandatory evacuation are thousands of impoverished people who were too poor to afford transportation to leave the city. They had no resources. Unfortunately, these people are most likely the ones who have perished as a result of Hurricane Katrina.

For others who have also at one time lived in New Orleans, I know your heart is heavy today as well. New Orleans is a special place and if you've ever lived there, I don't need to explain why.

Please pray for those who have lost love ones as a result of Katrina and for the safety and well-being of the residents who are remaining in New Orleans, Biloxi, Gulfport, Slidell, Bay St. Louis, and any other municipality I've missed.
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Thankfully, for NOLA, she veered East at the very last minute which is why Mississippi got hit so badly. I can't imagine the devastation if it was a direct hit.

But who are we praying to? The same god that sent the storm?

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But who are we praying to? The same god that sent the storm?
Good point.. Also.. The same god that has made those people so smart that they didn't leave under an order of mandatory evacuation?

Seriously.. Some things are beyond my understanding.. When a similar hurricane would strike before the middle of XXst century, that was really tough shit.. But these days? It was known that a very dangerous hurricane would strike the area 3 days in advance. It was known that it is going to be an absolute monster of hurricane two days in advance.. And still, some people would not leave..

Also.. They built the towns, cities, everything knowing what kind of place is that.. Has that kind of hurricane never happened before? Didn't they know that that kind of things is possible?

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Good point.. Also.. The same god that has made those people so smart that they didn't leave under an order of mandatory evacuation?

Seriously.. Some things are beyond my understanding.. When a similar hurricane would strike before the middle of XXst century, that was really tough shit.. But these days? It was known that a very dangerous hurricane would strike the area 3 days in advance. It was known that it is going to be an absolute monster of hurricane two days in advance.. And still, some people would not leave..

Also.. They built the towns, cities, everything knowing what kind of place is that.. Has that kind of hurricane never happened before? Didn't they know that that kind of things is possible?
yes, because it's so easy to leave when you don't have a car or you do have a car but no money so it ran out of gas after being stuck in traffic for 7 hours.

Take your negative ass somewhere else why don't you. With all your knowledge surely you have better things to do.



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or you do have a car but no money so it ran out of gas after being stuck in traffic for 7 hours.
I guess you are not even aware of how nonsensical what you write is..

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I guess you are not even aware of how nonsensical what you write is..
I guess you are not even aware of how much shit you're full of?
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It's just awful, I can't watch the news without starting to cry, and you know how hard-hearted Helen is, so that's really saying something.

It's easy to blame people for not evacuating, until you're the one told to evacuate. Apart from money and the short period of time in which to flee, people sometimes don't want to leave their homes behind, and that can be hard. It's like you feel if you stay there, you can protect it from being destroyed.

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It's easy to blame people for not evacuating, until you're the one told to evacuate. Apart from money and the short period of time in which to flee, people sometimes don't want to leave their homes behind, and that can be hard. It's like you feel if you stay there, you can protect it from being destroyed.
Sure, we can't but sympathise with those people, because of sentiental reason, but we have to admit that not leaving was clearly not a smart thing to do. Irresponsible thing to do..

Maybe it is just me, as I generally don't give a fuck about property, mine or someone's else.. There is only one irreversible damage - and that's loss of lives, and that could have been totally, totally avoided.

And when someone's first refuses to evacuate and then they are crying over loss of a loved one, all we can say is "That sucks, guys, but it was you who have made that choice"..

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It's just awful, I can't watch the news without starting to cry, and you know how hard-hearted Helen is, so that's really saying something.

It's easy to blame people for not evacuating, until you're the one told to evacuate. Apart from money and the short period of time in which to flee, people sometimes don't want to leave their homes behind, and that can be hard. It's like you feel if you stay there, you can protect it from being destroyed.
Houses can be rebuilt (although I"m not sure I'd rebuild in a city that is 25ft under sea level)...memories can be handed down to the next generation by word of mouth...but you can't keep your house from being destroyed by staying there. At least evacuate to a shelter if you can't leave the city. They were giving free bus rides to residents in NOLA.

However, I am going to send money because I'm sure "the International community" won't be helping us out....they never do. Ironic, huh?

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Sure, we can't but sympathise with those people, because of sentiental reason, but we have to admit that not leaving was clearly not a smart thing to do. Irresponsible thing to do..

Maybe it is just me, as I generally don't give a fuck about property, mine or someone's else.. There is only one irreversible damage - and that's loss of lives, and that could have been totally, totally avoided.

And when someone's first refuses to evacuate and then they are crying over loss of a loved one, all we can say is "That sucks, guys, but it was you who have made that choice"..
I'm just saying, I don't know if you've ever been evacuated before, but it majorly sucks big time, to spend hours and hours on a highway with nowhere to go, hotels booked everywhere, mass panic and hysteria, and rain coming. And it turns out to be a false alarm sometimes, or it veers elsewhere at the last minute. So it's real tempting to stay at home and risk it. Would Helen have gotten the hell out of Dodge for Katrina? Of course, but I can understand people staying put, some people don't want to walk away from everything in their life in a house. I don't know if you own a house, but when you do, at least for me, you do feel like you can't abandon it.

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However, I am going to send money because I'm sure "the International community" won't be helping us out....they never do. Ironic, huh?
Well, that's those people - Alabama, Mississipi and Luisiana, who overwhelmingly voted for current administration, that wasted our surplus and spent money on a meaningless war, money that will completely dwarf the material losses after Katrina. The money that could have been used to help these very people.. Surely, what they are going to get from this administrattion will be just scraps comparing to what it could have been..

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Well, that's those people - Alabama, Mississipi and Luisiana, who overwhelmingly voted for current administration, that wasted our surplus and spent money on a meaningless war, money that will completely dwarf the material losses after Katrina. The money that could have been used to help these very people.. Surely, what they are going to get from this administrattion will be just scraps comparing to what it could have been..
I disagree...they will get what they need and then some I"m sure.

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I'm just saying, I don't know if you've ever been evacuated before, but it majorly sucks big time, to spend hours and hours on a highway with nowhere to go, hotels booked everywhere, mass panic and hysteria, and rain coming. And it turns out to be a false alarm sometimes, or it veers elsewhere at the last minute.
And you know? That's another payment for choices that America makes. We chose to completely neglect a development of system of public transportation. Of course, the highway system of any US city is not designed for mass evacuation by cars. But 2000 buses would have made the same job just fine. with no problem whatsoever. Could they find themselves 2000 buses? Easily.

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And you know? That's another payment for choices that America makes. We chose to completely neglect a development of system of public transportation. Of course, the highway system of any US city is not designed for mass evacuation by cars. But 2000 buses would have made the same job just fine. with no problem whatsoever. Could they find themselves 2000 buses? Easily.
Yes, I do know. The next time, I'm just flying the fuck out of here, to hell with it.

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Sure, we can't but sympathise with those people, because of sentiental reason, but we have to admit that not leaving was clearly not a smart thing to do. Irresponsible thing to do..

Maybe it is just me, as I generally don't give a fuck about property, mine or someone's else.. There is only one irreversible damage - and that's loss of lives, and that could have been totally, totally avoided.

And when someone's first refuses to evacuate and then they are crying over loss of a loved one, all we can say is "That sucks, guys, but it was you who have made that choice"..
Imagine being on a fixed income, or barely that, without transportation. Its the end of the month and you don't have any money left until the first of the month.

The mayor tells you to evacuate, but you have no money, no car, and cannot afford to go any place other than your home. It takes money to leave, and you can't afford to stay in a hotel somewhere else, even if you had money for a bus out of town.

Many of these people live day-to-day, sometimes going without food until their next check comes.

WHAT IN THE FUCK ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO?

For those who had the ability to leave and had insurance, they can rebuild their lives easily. For those who didn't, rebuilding and just surviving is a monstrous challenge. And unfortunately, some lost their lives because of it.

In these types of catastrophies, it is always the poor that suffer the most. And I'm not talking about losing homes. I'm talking about basic survival, if that was possible for some.
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