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post #1 of 51 (permalink) Old Aug 21st, 2005, 11:23 PM Thread Starter
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I have two questions for you all.

1) Who is Jessica Lynch?
2) Who is/was Natalee Holloway?

Yeah I know. The basic answers to those two questions are really easy. I mean only a fool or someone who has been completely oblivious to today’s news wouldn't know of these to white women.

Now I have two more questions.

3) Who is Shoshana Johnson?
4) Who is/was La'Toyia Figueroa?

Well I know most of you all here know of the latter person mentioned. Likely only cause there's a thread pertaining to her story now. I mean white America; oops I mean the American media sure didn't go out of their way to cover it. In fact she was missing for a damn month and the story didn't get any coverage that was note worthy up until they other day when they finally found her. I mean most of us were like, "they found whose body? Who was she?"

Now this what I believe the common American view of the persons in questions 1,2,3, & 4:

1) Wonderful white girl who is such an inspiration to us all.
2) Beautiful yet unfortunate young white girl who was taken advantage of (and possibly killed) be those damn Aruban hevans. It was so not her fault.

3) It really doesn't matter. She's black.
4) Who really cares anyway? She's black/Hispanic.

Now I may be wrong, but the disparity in media coverage and also one being held as a cultural icon (Ms Lynch) tends to insinuate my views to be true. Oh btw if you all didn't know of her. Ms Johnson was an Army Specialist that belonged to the same 507th Maintenance Company as Lynch. But unlike Lynch, Johnson fought to stave off their Iraqi captors. Like Lynch, she sustained serious injuries. Yeah, she was the other female POW captured with Lynch. 'What, you mean there was another one? Who would have thought it ' One has a book, a movie, been on news interview specials, and is loved and revered by "almost" all. The other... well at least her family and friends loves her. Yeah
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I have two questions for you all.

1) Who is Jessica Lynch?
2) Who is/was Natalee Holloway?

Yeah I know. The basic answers to those two questions are really easy. I mean only a fool or someone who has been completely oblivious to today’s news wouldn't know of these to white women.

Now I have two more questions.

3) Who is Shoshana Johnson?
4) Who is/was La'Toyia Figueroa?

Well I know most of you all here know of the latter person mentioned. Likely only cause there's a thread pertaining to her story now. I mean white America; oops I mean the American media sure didn't go out of their way to cover it. In fact she was missing for a damn month and the story didn't get any coverage that was note worthy up until they other day when they finally found her. I mean most of us were like, "they found whose body? Who was she?"

Now this what I believe the common American view of the persons in questions 1,2,3, & 4:

1) Wonderful white girl who is such an inspiration to us all.
2) Beautiful yet unfortunate young white girl who was taken advantage of (and possibly killed) be those damn Aruban hevans. It was so not her fault.

3) It really doesn't matter. She's black.
4) Who really cares anyway? She's black/Hispanic.

Now I may be wrong, but the disparity in media coverage and also one being held as a cultural icon (Ms Lynch) tends to insinuate my views to be true. Oh btw if you all didn't know of her. Ms Johnson was an Army Specialist that belonged to the same 507th Maintenance Company as Lynch. But unlike Lynch, Johnson fought to stave off their Iraqi captors. Like Lynch, she sustained serious injuries. Yeah, she was the other female POW captured with Lynch. 'What, you mean there was another one? Who would have thought it ' One has a book, a movie, been on news interview specials, and is loved and revered by "almost" all. The other... well at least her family and friends loves her. Yeah
Good post, but couldn't you have just posted this in the La'Toyia Figueroa thread?
Some of us were basically saying the same thing as you.
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Good post, but couldn't you have just posted this in the La'Toyia Figueroa thread?
Some of us were basically saying the same thing as you.
Thanks Believe it or not, I actually haven't opened/viewed the La'Toyia thread yet. This just has been on my mind all day and I simply wanted to get my points out once I had the chance. I'll go look into the other thread now, and I'll likely will just copy & paste this ost in there.
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Although I do see what you're talking about, I doubt that it's really an issue of race. It's probably just a coincidence. If you want to take on white America, or the American media for this, then why doesn't BET or UPN or any other network that has predominantly African-American viewership tell the world about Shoshana or La'Toyia?

It is sad that those two women didn't have their stories told, but I really see this as just a coincidence. And you can't say what I'm saying is biased because I'm Asian, so I am part of the minority as well.

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Well, they are the majority...
That's true, and also the media does hold the right to cover whatever stories they wish to. But it still doesn't make it right.

On the flip side, I guess I can't complain. I mean sure, when something unfortunate (kidnapped, raped, taken POW) happens to a black person, no one seems to care. But hey, when a black man commits or is charged with commiting a voilent crime nothing in America gets followed more closely. So I guess we get our dues
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That's true, and also the media does hold the right to cover whatever stories they wish to. But it still doesn't make it right.

On the flip side, I guess I can't complain. I mean sure, when something unfortunate (kidnapped, raped, taken POW) happens to a black person, no one seems to care. But hey, when a black man commits or is charged with commiting a voilent crime nothing in America gets followed more closely. So I guess we get our dues
And what would you call the BTK Serial Killer? Texas Chainsaw Massacre person? Are they all amazingly African Americans underneath that skin?

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Although I do see what you're talking about, I doubt that it's really an issue of race. It's probably just a coincidence. If you want to take on white America, or the American media for this, then why doesn't BET or UPN or any other network that has predominantly African-American viewership tell the world about Shoshana or La'Toyia?
Do you even watch UPN, BET and other stations that are watched predominantly by blacks???
First of all, most UPN stations have no regular nightly news programs.
Second of all, BET Nightly News has talked about these women more than all the other news stations combined.

And, just so you know, UPN and BET are the only main stations (the only 2 I know) that predominately center on black cultural media.
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Do you even watch UPN, BET and other stations that are watched predominantly by blacks???
First of all, most UPN stations have no regular nightly news programs.
Second of all, BET Nightly News has talked about these women more than all the other news stations combined.

And, just so you know, UPN and BET are the only main stations (the only 2 I know) that predominately center on black cultural media.
I watch UPN now and then. I thought there were more predominantly African-American centered networks

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I watch UPN now and then. I thought there were more predominantly African-American centered networks
Nope.
Those are the primary networks.
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And what would you call the BTK Serial Killer? Texas Chainsaw Massacre person? Are they all amazingly African Americans underneath that skin?
They simply got so much coverage because they were 'SERIAL KILLERS' i.e. mass murderers. Hell it seems a black man simply has to be charged with rape and will get that same amount of airtime. You can't really compare a mass murderer to someone suspected of 1 or 2 murders or rapes, or whatever. I mean the only minority serial killer I can think of was the D.C. Snipers (a father and his son).

I see for whatever reason you want to put up a rebuttal against me. But this is the truth and maybe you're just too naive to realize it. 'Spokenword73' said it best in the other thread, "The media usually like to show people of color in a negative light."
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They simply got so much coverage because they were 'SERIAL KILLERS' i.e. mass murderers. Hell it seems a black man simply has to be charged with rape and will get that same amount of airtime. You can't really compare a mass murderer to someone suspected of 1 or 2 murders or rapes, or whatever. I mean the only minority serial killer I can think of was the D.C. Snipers (a father and his son).

I see for whatever reason you want to put up a rebuttal against me. But this is the truth and maybe you're just too naive to realize it. 'Spokenword73' said it best in the other thread, "The media usually like to show people of color in a negative light."
It's not that I don't like you or anything. It's just that the message that I'm getting is that you think the African-Americans are being treated unfairly and that they are somewhat being oppressed because of this, and that is NOT true. I hear this all the time, and it's pathetic. Slavery was over a century ago, African-Americans now have all the freedom everyone else can enjoy, but yet sometimes people still make it seem like they deserve much more than what they have right now, which is the same as everyone else.

Maybe you meant something else, or was making another point That's just how I interpreted it

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