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Sir Edmund Barton 1 5.88%
Alfred Deakin 1 5.88%
William 'Billy' Hughes 0 0%
Joseph Lyons 0 0%
John Curtin 0 0%
Ben Chifley 0 0%
Sir Robert Menzies 2 11.76%
Gough Whitlam 6 35.29%
Bob Hawke 2 11.76%
John Howard 5 29.41%
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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Jun 25th, 2005, 06:36 AM Thread Starter
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Greatest Australian Prime Minister?

I know it's a great Australian character trait to have scant regard for our national history, and I don't really expect a big response to this thread as a result. But I just thought it might be a good

Unlike many Aussies, I am interested in our political history. From Australia's 25 PM's since Federation I have selected the ten whose achievements and impact, in my view, stand out the most. From those I would like you to select the PM whom you consider to be the greatest.

I would be interested to here other people's views on this. Maybe we can get some discussion as well
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old Jun 25th, 2005, 06:39 AM
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Paul Keating. He was a really smart guy and it's a shame about the way he went out.

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Whitlam. lol I wouldn't have had a clue if I didn't do international studies last year
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Keating just missed the cut, I had him as #11. The trouble is that so many of his greatest achievements were as Treasurer under Hawke not as Prime Minister. In fact his list of achievements as PM are pretty short. Most of his impact as PM was cultural and that legacy has been repudiated in the last ten years. Still, I feel that Keating may well be one of those PM's whose legacy, with the benefit of hindsight, will grow. If Australia does eventually adopt the cultural model that Keating worked for, a big if, then his legacy will be evaluated in a much different (better) light. Kind of like Sir George Reid, whose dogged commitment to Free Trade did not become policy until 70 years after he left office. A PM can become prophet-like with hindsight.
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Gough Whitlam...

but Keating, if he was up there....

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Bob Hawke.

Keating was a great treasurer but not at all a great prime minister. Hawke gathered a great team around him and brought out the best in most of them, including Keating. I think that most people will concede that Hawke was a very good prime minister, but most don't want to say he was a great one, for various reasons relating to his downfall and his seemingly spiteful and narcissistic reaction to it (including shacking up with Blanche and dumping Hazel). But history will correct that. He's currently very underrated.

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John Howard has my vote and so does Sir Robert Menzies. If I have to choose one it will be Howard for his political saviness. I don't know why so many of you chose Gough Whitlam. He was the Australian Richard Nixon being the only PM to be dismissed from office. He was pretty lousy in office. I guess some of you are desperate to have someone from the labor party get the vote
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The usual response is Curtin. Funny that no one has voted for him yet.

It's always funny to see people voting for Whitlam, who was a disaster as prime minister (though a great opposition leader who brought Labor out of the wilderness; he just stuffed up as prime minister).

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Bob Hawke.

Keating was a great treasurer but not at all a great prime minister. Hawke gathered a great team around him and brought out the best in most of them, including Keating. I think that most people will concede that Hawke was a very good prime minister, but most don't want to say he was a great one, for various reasons relating to his downfall and his seemingly spiteful and narcissistic reaction to it (including shacking up with Blanche and dumping Hazel). But history will correct that. He's currently very underrated.
I voted for Menzies, but I agree with you completely on everything you say about Hawke. Unquestionably one of our 3 or 4 best Prime Ministers.
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