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Opinion Piece: PETA Doesn't Want Kids to Drink Milk

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PETA Gets to Your Kids
Friday, May 13, 2005
By Steven Milloy
Radical animal-rights activists may be the last people you'd think would be planning school lessons for your children. Well, think again.

Through its innocuous-sounding "educational" programming arm known as TeachKind, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has found a way to reach school children starting as young as kindergarten with its extremist agenda. The opportunity for PETA (search) to gets its message into the classroom has been paved, at least in part, by various laws on the books in at least 12 states mandating humane education in public schools — thus creating a demand for curricula centered on teaching children about the humane treatment of animals.

Naturally, PETA is only too happy to provide ready-made lesson plans, videos and handouts to already overworked teachers.

"Kids who hurt animals may be on a dangerous path that will only get worse if it is not corrected. Psychiatrists, FBI profilers and law enforcement officials have repeatedly documented that kids who abuse animals rarely stop there," TeachKind warns.

Its fact sheet, entitled "Animal Abuse and Human Abuse: Partners in Crime," points out that "violent acts toward animals have long been recognized as indicators of a dangerous psychopathy that does not confine itself to animals," and goes on to detail how many notorious school shooters, including Columbine's Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, were known to mutilate animals prior to their attacks on humans.


Indeed, according to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (search) (DSM-IV) published by the American Psychiatric Association, participation in animal torture is one of the early warning signs of a severe emotional disturbance in a child, ranking alongside fire-setting as a strong indicator of future criminal behavior as well as the likelihood of psychopathy in adulthood.

While there's no question that the small number of children who torture animals are quite disturbed and that all children should be taught how wrong such behavior is, it's quite another matter for PETA to capitalize on this issue as an opportunity to indoctrinate children with PETA's own radical, catch-all definition of what constitutes "animal cruelty." And that's precisely what PETA is doing through TeachKind.

As its Web site prominently touts the animal cruelty-psychopathy connection with quotes from FBI criminalists and others, a closer inspection reveals that the bulk of TeachKind's educational efforts are actually crafted so as to make children believe that everyday behaviors, such as eating a diet that contains meat or animal products, are unmistakably, unequivocally acts of animal cruelty.

PETA's frightening of young children by equating, or even associating, truly disturbed behavior such as mutilation of a family pet with common everyday practices such as eating hamburgers amounts to nothing less than ideological child abuse.

PETA even accuses schools across America of being major perpetrators of animal cruelty. They oppose basic learning methods widely practiced throughout our educational system such as insect collection, field trips to zoos or aquariums, and dissection in the classroom.

"Hearing a lot about violence in schools? You can do something to help. Cut out dissection!" announces their Web-based anti-dissection campaign, which even mentions how a young Jeffrey Dahmer "became fascinated with blood and guts" as a result of participating in a biology assignment involving dissection. With this assertion, PETA is inviting impressionable young minds to believe that all it takes is one experience with a dissection assignment to walk away a psychopathic serial killer.

In addition to encouraging kids to refuse to participate in dissection assignments, the campaign even coaches kids on the exact wording to use in their formal written objections so as to "provide the basis for a possible legal case."

A significant portion of TeachKind's curriculum is devoted to persuading children to adopt a vegetarian diet as a way to avoid participating in "animal cruelty." PETA's Web-based materials provide the warped logic that if farmers treated a cat or a dog the way they treat livestock, they would "be prosecuted for animal cruelty and locked up" — once again stressing the theme of hypothetical criminality for those who eat meat.

PETA even tries to scare kids away from drinking milk, a food so controversial that it occupies its very own wedge on the latest FDA food pyramid for optimal nutrition. A series of trading cards called "Don't Be a Milk Sucker" available from its Web site, features cartoon characters suffering a host of illnesses PETA attributes to milk consumption such as ear infections, obesity, acne, and even diabetes!

Nor does milk consumption escape PETA's definition as a distinctly cruel act against animals. We meet "Milk-Stealing Ming," who is depicted with his mouth directly attached to an unhappy cow's udder, alongside a "wanted poster" describing his crimes and exclaiming, "cows make milk for their babies, not for maniacs like Ming."

If we are to take at face value PETA's irresponsible suggestion that "animal cruelty" — as defined by their radical, catch-all parameters — is a reliable indicator of psychopathic tendencies, I suppose it's just a matter of time before we all read about Milk-Stealing Ming's future adult crime sprees in the headlines.

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milk from cows is terrible for people, anyway.

kids are getting so fat nowadays, that cutting out animal products might just help them out.


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milk from cows is terrible for people, anyway.

kids are getting so fat nowadays, that cutting out animal products might just help them out.
I love milk, especially ice cold chocolate milk!

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PETA can kiss my ass-- and that's from a vegetarian. Their stupid tactics cause more harm than good if you asked me.
decemberlove, I personally do not drink real milk (ie from the cow's tits) , but I don't think it is the cause of the obesity in kids. I blame all the sugar and other junk foods they consume

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i dont think peta has an inch's justification it what its trying to do. (in fact by any educational standard what they are doing is wrong, as you are not supposed to feed student any propaganda). you are, as an educator, supposed to provide content as well as the tools and the resources so that they can learn how to make good choices for themselves.

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cows milk doesn't even have that much calcium, and has too much fat. people like cows milk, that's cool, but i do wish they would stop with lies about how good for you it is. its all hype and very little action.

now if you want high calcium, low fat milk.... go for camel's milk.

although people (peta and fat vegans not included) see nothing wrong with fatty cows milk, i don't think camels milk will ever catch on. call hypocrisy, call it nasty, call it whatever you like, its true.

so my point is, making kids drink cows milk "because its good for them" is a lie. people drink cows milk because thats what they are used to and thats what they like, (and there is nothing wrong with that) but its nutritional value compared with the milk of other non endangered mammals is dubious at best, and non existent at worse.

anyway 75% of the worlds people are lactose intolerant. and shouldnt touch the stuff



personally, i think of peta (and vegans and vegetarians) as a kettle and meat eaters as a pot.

On the one hand,
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PETA's frightening of young children by equating, or even associating, truly disturbed behavior such as mutilation of a family pet with common everyday practices such as eating hamburgers amounts to nothing less than ideological child abuse.
this part in bold comes from a place of profound ignorance. some people around the world do keep cows as pets and have for ages. so to them the eating of beef is no less repulsive than the eating of dog meat is to Americans, and of course dog meat is banned in most places in America. pot.


i think people should eat whatever they want
but they should not kid themselves into thinking that they are morally justified in banning the eating of one pet while eating another. they should be honest with themselves. they eat animals other people keep for pets and get mad when other people eat animals they keep for pets.

on the other,

America has tons of non profit organizations to help abused animals, including peta, but few and far non profit organizations between to help physical, and sexually abused children in the same way. (in fact there were animal protection agencies before their were child protection agencies in america ) i would bet 100$ that peta members have never once staged a protest nike/gap ect. offices where they would go naked rather than wear clothes made by child labor in china for 4 cents a day. kettle.

personally, i think of peta (and vegans and vegetarians) as kettles and meat eaters as pots.

neither side has any moral high ground on anyone else as far as i'm concerned.

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PETA can kiss my ass-- and that's from a vegetarian. Their stupid tactics cause more harm than good if you asked me.
decemberlove, I personally do not drink real milk (ie from the cow's tits) , but I don't think it is the cause of the obesity in kids. I blame all the sugar and other junk foods they consume
Acan't really comment on PETA here, but some snimal rights activists (i.e. those not belonging to PETA) can use shocking tactics in the UK. For example, it is shocking when anti-vivisection activists petrol bomb scientists homes and descerate their relatives graves. It just alientates people who would have been otherwise been sympathetic to their cause.

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PETA can kiss my ass-- and that's from a vegetarian. Their stupid tactics cause more harm than good if you asked me.
decemberlove, I personally do not drink real milk (ie from the cow's tits) , but I don't think it is the cause of the obesity in kids. I blame all the sugar and other junk foods they consume
no, it's not tha cause, but it definitely contributes.

all the chemicals and steriods they give animals + the terrible way they are treated = not good for humans.

it's a lie that it's good for you. soy/rice milk is much better. the FDA food pyramid is complete bullshit. they just pulled it out of their ass.


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no, it's not tha cause, but it definitely contributes.

all the chemicals and steriods they give animals + the terrible way they are treated = not good for humans.

it's a lie that it's good for you. soy/rice milk is much better. the FDA food pyramid is complete bullshit. they just pulled it out of their ass.
I so remember drinking fresh milk straight from the cow's tits on my grandpa's farm when I was a lil girl. People from the rural areas in my birth country are so lucky. They don't deal with all the steroids and chemicals that are so prevelant in the big cities.

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PETA can suck my big fat hard cock.

those ppl need to get a life and realize their are more important things in this world to worry about...
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America has tons of non profit organizations to help abused animals, including peta, but few and far non profit organizations between to help physical, and sexually abused children in the same way. (in fact there were animal protection agencies before their were child protection agencies in america ) i would bet 100$ that peta members have never once staged a protest nike/gap ect. offices where they would go naked rather than wear clothes made by child labor in china for 4 cents a day. kettle.

personally, i think of peta (and vegans and vegetarians) as kettles and meat eaters as pots.

neither side has any moral high ground on anyone else as far as i'm concerned.
peta members are a bit off the wall, but just cos they don't protest for children's rights in china doesn't make them any less moral. there are a million things to protest against. you can go on and on with that way of thinking "well if they aren't fighting for animals rights and children's rights in china and general human rights in cuba and women's rights in tribes who use FGM, then they aren't any better than the hypocrites who won't eat dog meat but will eat cow meat"... this is what is important to them, and i don't think we should try to lessen their efforts just cos they don't protest for children's rights in china. [did that make sense? just woke up not too long ago ]

also, you should be careful to call veggies & vegans kettle cos not every vegetarian/vegan is one cos of moral issues. all the vegans i know do it for health reasons. don't generalize

bill maher is a member of peta. i don't think it's necessarily for the way people "treat" animals, but more for the nutritional value of not eating any animals products.


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PETA is one of the reason I eat meat with such an ecstatic passion. I'm afraid those people just don't have a grasp of reality.

When your house is infected with rats, do you let the rats live in the excuse rats will suffer if you kill them? When you go outside, do you avoid walking on ants? No wait, you don't. Why? Because humans want a certain quality of life. And a certain quality of life include good food, that animals can provide us.

We have to kill some animals, for many reasons, and thinking otherwise is pure stupidity.

I do think animals should be treated better in general. But those insane extremists don't offer the solution, they just disgust the general public with their extreme, unrealistic point of view.

The only thing I agree is that cows make milk for their babies. I have no idea why humans drink cows milk, it's gross.
No, but there are more or less humane ways to deal with the problem, and most civilised countries have laws dealing with such issues.

I don't think there's anything wrong with equating factory farming of animals with torturing pets - it's a fairly accurate analogy in many cases.

People shouldn't assume PETA are in any way representative of all animal welfare organisations. It's just that America's attitude to animal welfare is so fucked up they're the only ones able to thrive.

That is all.
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no, it's not tha cause, but it definitely contributes.

all the chemicals and steriods they give animals + the terrible way they are treated = not good for humans.

it's a lie that it's good for you. soy/rice milk is much better. the FDA food pyramid is complete bullshit. they just pulled it out of their ass.
I recently watched a documentary on milk, about how it apparently increases the cancer risk (but really, what doesn't?). There's more growth hormone in cow's milk (because it's intended for a cow, a much bigger animal than humans) and that isn't healthy, they say. It also explains why the Dutch are the tallest in the world. I don't think there are other people out there drinking more milk than the Dutch.
The Dutch don't have an obesity problem like the Americans though, so I wouldn't blame obesity on milk. I drink a lot of milk, I need my glass of ice cold milk every morning or my morning isn't complete. I'm far from overweight.

Which makes me think...maybe the steroids have an effect on weight. They're not allowed in Europe (not that our cows are healthier, they're pumped full of all sorts of chemicals as well), they are in the US...

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I recently watched a documentary on milk, about how it apparently increases the cancer risk (but really, what doesn't?). There's more growth hormone in cow's milk (because it's intended for a cow, a much bigger animal than humans) and that isn't healthy, they say. It also explains why the Dutch are the tallest in the world. I don't think there are other people out there drinking more milk than the Dutch.
The Dutch don't have an obesity problem like the Americans though, so I wouldn't blame obesity on milk.
I drink a lot of milk, I need my glass of ice cold milk every morning or my morning isn't complete. I'm far from overweight.

Which makes me think...maybe the steroids have an effect on weight. They're not allowed in Europe (not that our cows are healthier, they're pumped full of all sorts of chemicals as well), they are in the US...
American buy milk by the gallon. And they put sugar in their bread.

I drink organic milk.
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American buy milk by the gallon. And they put sugar in their bread.

I drink organic milk.
Do nearly all people in canteens at uni drink milk with their lunch? Do you get a choice of all kinds of milk at the canteen, while the soft drinks are standing somewhere on the side? (and only the foreigners drink the soft drinks)

That was my experience at a Dutch uni. The Dutch though it was odd I was drinking coke, as I was the only one.

I generally get funny looks when asking for milk at a hotel. They usually give me some lukewarm milk, taken from the can that stood next to the cereal for several hours. Yuck.

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