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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old Apr 30th, 2005, 12:45 AM Thread Starter
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Why are we here?

I’m deployed in Iraq…again, and I have on occasion been asked this question. Being out here first hand, I feel I may be able to inform and/or enlighten some people on the topic who may be in question. Anyways I think this topic possibly could make for a good discussion. Here’s my spill. Please read.

Why are we here?

We are here protecting the US and the World from terrorism, but mostly protecting the Iraqi Nation (the people) from terrorism and insurgency, and building & training up their Nation (security forces and military) to stand, fight, and prevail against the terrorist and insurgents.

I don't know if you follow the war. But the Iraqi people suffer the mass majority of the attacks, especially casualty & fatality wise. The terrorist are more afraid of us (US Military) cause we're strong, so they in turn cowardly attack the weak, being their own people with no regard at all. To them (the terrorist/insurgents) anyone who believes in a just cause and/or a Democratic government, and also befriends the US is fair game. It's sad really.

No, we (US Military) are not bullies, and Bush is not a tyrant (though he may not be an angel either, but very few are), though some ignorant people that really don't know what's going on out here may tend to think differently.

We are here protecting and supporting the Iraqi's. We are putting our lives on the line; standing post at many of their installations, road check points, and also patrolling their streets keeping them "more" safe for the Iraqi's to freely move about on; just to name a few.

Heck, we could just up and leave Iraq before they (Iraqi Security Forces) are adequately able to fend for themselves against the insurgency. But I ask, would that really be a just and righteous thing to do? Just follow MSNBC, CNN, and/or FOX News and see how many innocent non-combatants are killed and/or injured from attacks almost daily.

Yes, 9/11 happened and we decided to strike back. I know going through your head right now is, “ but wasn’t Bin-Laden behind those attacks?” Well yes, but it all goes full circle. Believe it or not, there were (and still are) some bad people with power in Iraq that supported the terrorist. I won’t lie; “maybe” initially our motives were partly to seek vindication (i.e. you hit me – I hit you back). But now it’s definitely something much greater than that. We are here to Liberate Iraq (being accomplished) and to head up the Global War on Terrorism.

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See what I mean. Just check out the msn web portal home page sometimes. This just in today (29 Apr 05):

Bombings, attacks kill 50 across Iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents set off at least 17 bombs in Iraq on Friday, killing at least 50 people, including three U.S. soldiers, in a series of attacks aimed at shaking Iraq’s newly formed government.

(entire article) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7629770/
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Just figured I'd share current "public/media" news on the war again. If you're interested, feel free to read. If you're not, please disregard. No replies necessary, but of course you're free to do whatever.
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Fresh attacks roil Iraq; at least 11 killed
U.S. also announces deaths of 7 soldiers in earlier attacks

The Associated Press
Updated: 8:37 p.m. ET April 30, 2005


BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents launched fresh attacks in Baghdad and northern Iraq on Saturday, killing at least 11 Iraqis and wounding more than 40 in a second day of violence aimed at shaking the country’s newly formed government.

At a meeting of Iraq’s neighbors in Turkey, meanwhile, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned the violence was “not solely the concern of the Iraqis but ours as well.”

Some of the worst attacks occurred in the capital, still reeling from Friday’s onslaught in which at least 17 bombs exploded in Iraq, killing 52 people, including five U.S. soldiers.

(continued) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7629770/
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I understand that you are tryin' to do well..BUT Your action have never been asked by any Iraki people and you went to war with no reason...this will always represent a serious problem for everybodies in the world especially Iraki's people.

If you want to liberate countries and show you as a nice country learn that united states is far from being the smartest country in the world (polution, education, social system...) maybe it's the most powerfull. but act with respect for other countries please

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I'm very sympathetic of the many American soldiers that had to go to war.
I understand that it's the government's orders. But America did not have a reason to attack Iraq.
Where are the WMDs anyways? Even Bush had to admit his mistake.

I understand that you are patriotic Zippy. But it probably would have been better to say God Bless the world as well, are the rest of the world unimportant?

GOd Bless HUMANITY.
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If you're going to say the US had no reason to attack Iraq, I hope you'll be consistent and say that NATO should never have gotten involved in Kosovo. Most of the arguments that were used about going to war in Kosovo can also be applied to Iraq.

The other thing I always find interesting is how, when the insurgents/militants/terrorists blow up a bomb in front of a mosque, there's never any comment from the media about how this is going to turn the Iraqi people against them, becuase, after all, you never blow up a holy site.
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I believe that the time will soon come when Iraq will be left on its own, and can only hope that this invention (or whatever you would choose to call it) proves to be a catalyst for peace in the region, and indeed, the rest of the world.

Also I agree with ginger fish - God bless humanity, not just America.
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Also - do you not think that US intervention in Iraq was the initial cause behind all of these insurgent attacks!? For me, the invasion in Iraq stirred the hornets nest, and therefore as invaders we now have a responsibility to stay - until some form of stalemate can be reached.
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No, we (US Military) are not bullies, and Bush is not a tyrant (though he may not be an angel either, but very few are), though some ignorant people that really don't know what's going on out here may tend to think differently.
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I understand that you are patriotic Zippy. But it probably would have been better to say God Bless the world as well, are the rest of the world unimportant?

GOd Bless HUMANITY.
"God Bless HUMANITY", I agree . I only posted God Bless America at the end of my passage, because it seemed to fit with the post. I really didn't think to give it a second thought, and I meant no offense by it. Also to answer your question noted above. I am a devout Christian, and I have love for all people of the world. So NO, the rest of the world is not unimportant to me.
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"God Bless HUMANITY", I agree . I only posted God Bless America at the end of my passage, because it seemed to fit with the post. I really didn't think to give it a second thought, and I meant no offense by it. Also to answer your question noted above. I am a devout Christian, and I have love for all people of the world. So NO, the rest of the world is not unimportant to me.



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I understand that you are tryin' to do well..BUT Your action have never been asked by any Iraki people and you went to war with no reason...this will always represent a serious problem for everybodies in the world especially Iraki's people.

If you want to liberate countries and show you as a nice country learn that united states is far from being the smartest country in the world (polution, education, social system...) maybe it's the most powerfull. but act with respect for other countries please
You may be right but don't forget that though France has less influence in Africa it still send troops to Cote D'Ivoire. If you blame U.S. for sending troops to Iraq you should also blame your own country for having troops in that country. D'accord?
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I understand that you are tryin' to do well..BUT Your action have never been asked by any Iraki people and you went to war with no reason...this will always represent a serious problem for everybodies in the world especially Iraki's people.

If you want to liberate countries and show you as a nice country learn that united states is far from being the smartest country in the world (polution, education, social system...) maybe it's the most powerfull. but act with respect for other countries please
I don't think they were in a position to 'ask'. I'm sure they are most put out about having democracy imposed on them.

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Youre being paid to do a job, just do it and stop fuckin moaning!What did you want to do? Just sit in the barracks all day and polish your helmet!
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Youre being paid to do a job, just do it and stop fuckin moaning! What did you want to do? Just sit in the barracks all day and polish your helmet!
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B*tch, aint nobody moaning nor complaining about shyt. Did you even read my post at all you fudgin' moron. "Why are we (I) here?” is a rhetorical question. I'm actually telling you and everyone else why (at least IMO). Nowhere in my original post did I b*tch, moan, complain, nor state that I was unhappy. But if you're curious (though you don't even deserve an intelligent response), I am proud to serve, and that IS why I joined the Service. I take pride in accomplishing missions and objectives that I am ordered/requested to carry out, and I honor my country and my God.

You had really angered me there, so I apologize for my outbreak. I try to up hold to strong character, be positive, and also keep a joyous attitude.


P.S. I'm I sorry if I took your reply wrong. "If" you were only trying to be humorous with it, but had simply forgotten to end it with JK (just kidding).
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