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Is homosexuality biological or not?

So the other day I was talking about this with my friend and I'm an advocate of the "homosexuality is bioloigcal" theory, but she told me that she didn't believe that at all.

My perspective was that I knew a while ago, without having any stimulus from a real person. I just knew. It was innate, and I thought it was pretty obvious. I would say it was latent until I started thinking about it, and then there wasn't really a question. I also feel like there have been more gay people in the past couple generations than every before, which, if you know anything about genetics, would be good evidence that it is a biological thing.

She was saying that in response to the genetics piece, that that's not entirely true, that it mainly wasn't accepted socially until recently, which I agree with. But she also said that living at home in New England, that there aren't nearly as many gay people as there are in cities like Washington DC, where we are now, so it can't entirely be biological.

And I figured that you guys would be a good group to ask So what's your opinion? It is biological or are there other reasons that you can think of?

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The population is larger...hence more of all types of people.

Always been gay....never questioned it....by the time I was 11 I knew I was not at all sexually interested in females...
My brother is not gay...he was exposed to the exact same family environment...same male /female role models...same everything...my parents treated us no differently.

I think the only role that ones "environment" has is whether it is conjudice to growing up as the individual you should be ....or whether it is an oppressive one that stifles and results in fear, confusion or apprehension.

If you are indeed interested, then asking gay people to reinterate their own personal journies is a good place to start.

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It was just a question, you don't have to be so obnoxious about it

If more homosexuals exist in today's society, though as I said, it was more of a feeling because of what you see in today's society compared to a half century ago, it actually is proof of a biological thing. If more exist than in the past, that means that more people have the gene for it than in the past. It's just selection for a specific trait - it would indicate that more people are becoming carriers, which would lead to the recieving of either the dominant allele and the recessive allele for being a carrier or two recessive alleles, which would mean you are a homosexual. At least, that would be the logic.

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The population is larger...hence more of all types of people.

Always been gay....never questioned it....by the time I was 11 I knew I was not at all sexually interested in females...
My brother is not gay...he was exposed to the exact same family environment...same male /female role models...same everything...my parents treated us no differently.

I think the only role that ones "environment" has is whether it is conjudice to growing up as the individual you should be ....or whether it is an oppressive one that stifles and results in fear, confusion or apprehension.

If you are indeed interested, then asking gay people to reinterate their own personal journies is a good place to start.
THANK you, this is exactly what I was looking for.

I agree with you, I mean, my sister is not. But I was just curious. Because I felt it was biological, I just assumed that was the common theory. But then my friend told me she didn't think that, and it just made me wonder what other people thought. So I figured I'd ask.

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I am confident that it is largely biological. Think of all the parents who have raised their kids the way straight kids are "meant to be raised," but have still ended up with a gay son or daughter.

I won't rule out the possibility that experiences during one's upbringing could have an effect on someone, but I'm sure it isn't the entire reason.

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She was saying that in response to the genetics piece, that that's not entirely true, that it mainly wasn't accepted socially until recently, which I agree with. But she also said that living at home in New England, that there aren't nearly as many gay people as there are in cities like Washington DC, where we are now, so it can't entirely be biological.
Many of the gay people in larger cities grew up elsewhere.
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I don't know if its biological or not

but one point, I think there is the illusion that there are more now than there were a half century ago because it is more accepted...people are "out" or whatever. i would be willing to bet that there was truly about the same percentage of population that was gay before. then again maybe not, but i don't think there's any real way to know.

also, there may be the illusion of there being more gays in cities again because it is accepted. someone living in a city has a bigger opportunity to meet more gay people. a gay person in a tiny town will stay in the closet until he or she moves to the city in most cases.

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Homosexuality is NOT hereditary, which I think was part of yer question.

And yes being gay is biological, if by biological you mean it's something inside you and you don't choose to be gay.

I am sure that more gay people come out nowadays but I think also the numbers of babies born gay could be increasing

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Actually homosexuality is actually down from what it used to be back in archaic time. It was common place to have a wife and a boyfriend on the side.

Then Constantine came along, and it changed. But it just went into the "closet" until recently.

So I disagree with your idea of it being a new thing or whatever
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It is biological. I certainly know I didn't CHOOSE to be gay...not that I'm complaining. I love being gay. lol. boys are fun
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great to hear that Dallas

and it is biological. It's not like a switch you can turn on and off
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I know it is, it wasn't like I choose this way of life. If I could have choose anything, I would have decided to be straight. It's easier to live straight than it is gay.

Plus I have a male cousin on my mothers side that is gay, and a female that's bi (and I think mostly lesbian, but doesn't due to it not being accepted). Then I have an aunt on my fathers side that's lesbian.

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i agree with bacardi. i hate it when ppl make it out like you chose to be gay,, that is pure ignorance....why would u choose to be oppressed and live ur life inhibited to various degrees!

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It is biological. I certainly know I didn't CHOOSE to be gay...not that I'm complaining. I love being gay. lol. boys are fun
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Just because you didn't choose it does not mean it is biological.

I really don't know. I am a firm believer in science, and so far they can't seem to prove this one way or the other. However, I do personally feel that one day they will find genes that make people "gay" or whatever, even though I hope they don't. The day they find them is the day they start making people "NORMAL" (i.e. straight).

I also think the environment plays a role. It's pretty well documented that abuse can really mess up a kid's sexuality. Who knows what else affects it. One day they might find out that eating a certain fruit as a kid makes you more likely to be gay.


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I dunno...but I do remember chasing other boys at 5 years old. So I don't know how I could've LEARNED that.

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